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Just watching efl on "Quest" Kinell Qpr are ****ing awful. Interesting Holloway said on commentary I couldn't keep the experienced players and was told I had to make do with kids. Sounds familiar Onuha still not got a contract.
Disgraceful challenge by prestons Gallagher on joe Allen. We desperately need some fighters in our team.
Agree , that's one of the biggest worries. Lost Dawson , Meyler and Larsson from the spine of the team . Whatever people say about their ability, or legs going etc , they are 3 experienced solid pros , and that's not been replaced
Just nicked this from the Sunderland board. The lads on there are at least having a laugh about it. Rotating the plastic plants... Sunderland AFC spent £30,000 on a report into how it was perceived, only to be told it was ‘an old-fashioned football club,’ the new executive director has revealed.Charlie Methven was speaking at the launch of the Black Cats’ new business club at the Stadium of Light last night, and revealed some of the decisions which had contributed to the financial situation under the previous regime. The latest club accounts, which cover the year from August 1, 2016, to July 31, 2017 - a period which saw David Moyes replacing Sam Allardyce in the dug-out and a desperately disappointing season which ended in relegation from the Premier League - showed a loss before tax of £9.9million for the financial year. As part of his speech, Charlie Methven revealed the club spent £30,000 to commission a report from an external branding company on what it represented, only to be told it was ‘an old-fashioned football club.’ “We could have told you that for 30p, sat in Oxfordshire,” said Mr Methven. Other discoveries included: · Sunderland was paying ‘£1,000 a month to rotate plastic plants round the various rooms’; · There was not a single person selling sponsorship; · There were 15 people working in marketing and PR but only one in commercial sales; · The club had been employing ‘just over twice as many people as Newcastle United’. The previous regime had spent money ‘trying to be something they weren’t,” he said. “They had forgotten what Sunderland is.” The aim now was to be ‘a proper football club, and proud of it.’ “It is the people, it is the history, it is the culture - that is what a proper football club is and we need to get back to that being proud of that.” Coming from down south, he and new chairman Stewart Donald had been overwhelmed by the support for the club, he said. “A lot of my football career has been about trying to make people passionate when probably they did not want to be,” he said. “This is not a problem in the North East, it is not a problem in Sunderland. “The passion is unbelievable and it is passion that is expressed very openly. People will tell you exactly what they are thinking and what they think you should do.” Mr Methven, Stewart Donald and new director Juan Sartori promised to be open and honest with fans: “PR does not mean telling lies, it does not mean spin,” he said. “What it is about is communication and communication is a two-way process. “We will always be accessible because we want to have that conversation.”
That could be City 100%. Following the Allams will be a doddle in terms of satisfying the supporters.
It is, there's a lot more stuff to do in Hull though, so it's about getting that passion directed towards the football club.
Leicester has a rugby team which gets as many as our 2 rugby teams combined. Urban population of Leicester less than Hull. And nearly half of Leicester from a background which favours cricket over football or rugby. Yet their football team have got larger crowds for decades. Weren't the two rugby teams playing when we got large crowds in Carter's day? Or when we had a number of 30,000+ crowds in 1966/1967?
There is always turnover. Any new owner with common sense will go heavy on the youth attendance, bring in kids and get some atmosphere back. Old farts like you and me won’t do that.
Lots of old farts show more passion than a lot of the younger ones. Look at crowd scenes at other clubs. I've seen teenagers and fans in their twenties moaning and telling older fans to sit down. Unless we get some charismatic owner in with bright ideas and success on the pitch I don't think City will attract too many young ones who have never been or who have got out of the habit of going. Especially in a city with so much to do compared with everywhere else.
Oh right. You just wanted to be a **** and bibble on about your usual petty arguments. On you go then.
