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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thur 16th Aug)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Aug 16, 2018.

  1. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    Latest from Phil Hay seems to be genius. He wants a flying winger but likes Dallas so is trying to fix him up to be a CM as Phillips will need cover as he likes Forshaw and Klich. He says Dallas is clever enough
     
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  2. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Doc, not sure Dallas has the quickness needed for central mid. One thing I've noticed in the last couple of games is how quickly after losing the ball, a Leeds player is very quickly onto the second ball, short darting runs intercepting the ball - not sure I can see Dallas doing that?
     
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    :emoticon-0102-bigsm :emoticon-0102-bigsm :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  4. Doc

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    Sorry mate should have made myself clearer. Bielsa thinks Dallas isnt fast enough for what he wants, so wants to bring in a loan winger so that Harrison and the new guy can fly. He wants to keep Dallas but show him how to play CM, plu she can be a utility player covering LB, WB too
     
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  5. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Hi Doc, I don't think Dallas has the in-tenseness to play centre mid tho.

    Watching the last couple of games the midfield have darted, lunged, bullied, nipped in, outsprinted the opposition to the second ball. I don't think Dallas could do that imo.
     
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  6. wf10white

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    Morning all
     
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  7. Doc

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    Matt have just had a call from Bielsa and said fk Elland what does he know..<laugh> since when did a hairdresser start picking my team
     
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  8. ellandback

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    Morning pal
     
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  9. southernwhite

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    Good morning everyone
    From a very wet southampton.
    Still stunned by the complete turnaround of the team tbh,as others have said just goes to show what a quality coach can do,as it's not all down to the players! amazing,When Bielsa was appointed my thaught was we would basically see a new team out their,well we have,but didn't think for a minute it would be mostly the same players that served us up the dross and disinterested football of last season.I realy can't praise the man & his bucket up enough,but i'm realy gonna try :grin:
     
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  10. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Did he say that.

    The cheeky bastward...
     
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  11. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning SW, you in Southampton.

    You ever thought of becoming a MOD?
     
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  12. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    He’s always right Ell you’ll just have to live with it
     
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  13. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    Good morning everyone.

    You know it’s going well when it seems to be dragging until our next game.
     
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  14. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning 2020
     
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  15. Leedsoflondon

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    Morning all. The first two games have been magnificent but I’m going to hang fire before going overboard this early on. If 10-15 games in we’ve kept it up and are five points clear at the top I’ll start shouting from the rooftops. It would be so Leeds to slip up against Rotherham.
     
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  16. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Phil Hay: Say it quietly, but there’s potential for a lasting legacy beyond Bielsa at Leeds United

    There is a reluctance, almost a shyness, about Marcelo Bielsa when press conferences take a predictable turn and draw him into discussing the men who single him out as their keenest influence.

    Where Pep Guardiola credits part of his coaching acumen to Bielsa, Bielsa hears only self-deprecation distorting Guardiola’s own genius. “In any of his teams I’ve never seen any sign of my traits,” Bielsa says, though the Championship must be questioning how true that really is.

    Bielsa devotes himself to improving players, a raison d’etre stretching back 30 years. Any effect he has on the coaching fraternity is, apparently, unintentional if not quite open to debate. It is a quirk of the Argentinian’s career that he has mentored so many exceptional managers without actually mentoring them at all.

    Guardiola picks Bielsa’s brain but has never worked with him. Mauricio Pochettino was in Bielsa’s hands more than once as a player, long enough to digest his methods, but did not coach beneath him. Bielsa has overseen an accidental factory, a production line he created without thinking about it;and yet the appreciation of him is such that a letter written by Pochettino helped Bielsa qualify for a work permit from the Football Association in June.

    A glance at Bielsa’s backroom staff at Leeds United, the tight clique of lieutenants who bring everything together, shows how little thought he gives to nurturing what, in English terms, could be called the Anfield Bootroom. His assistants are staunchly loyal and professionally dedicated, South Americans who drop everything when Bielsa tips up in a different patch of Europe, but they hold the smallest of profiles and move around silently as Bielsa relocates.

    At no stage have his closest allies sought to branch out individually or use their close proximity to Bielsa to manage a club in their own right. When Bielsa quit Marseille, his staff departed en masse. When Lille lost patience with him, they all did likewise. One day it will end for Bielsa at Leeds and the same will happen. The staff around him came to be known in Argentina as the iron circle; difficult to bend when the going is good and inclined to stand fast when the wheels come off. There is a reason why Bielsa commands that loyalty. So many of the individuals who work for him are in the game because of him; opportunists in a healthy sense. Pablo Quiroga taught physical education and coached in amateur football before Bielsa enlisted him with Chile’s national team.

    Diego Reyes, more improbably, found a way into the sanctum by tipping up unannounced at Chile’s training complex and asking for work. He and Bielsa met then for the first time. Diego Flores joined the party at Marseille despite a fairly blank track record. Bielsa’s French translator, Salim Lamrani, is a highly-educated, multilingual academic but he is here through a kind stroke of fate: a Marseille supporter who warmed to Bielsa and succeeded in making Bielsa warm to him. In that company, Benoit Delaval – Leeds’ French fitness coach – stands out on the strength of 12 years spent in Lille’s medical department.

    Most if not all of that team are in situ for as long as Bielsa is in situ. They come as a package. Which leaves Carlos Corberan, the one existing coach who Bielsa chose to draft into his inner circle a month ago.

    Corberan, United’s Under-23s manager, had certain factors in his favour – fluent in Spanish but with a good grasp of English, a season already spent at Elland Road and evidence behind him of productive work with Leeds’ development squad – and, after sizing him up in the early days of pre-season, Bielsa asked him to join his bench



     
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  17. southernwhite

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    Morning ell
    Hedge end to be precise,A mod hmm,simply wouldn't have the time (but thanks if it was a serious question).:)
     
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  18. southernwhite

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    Christ it bloody well would,but their again i half feared a pasting from Derby,just gotta remember this is not the type of leeds team from old,But a team under the guidance of Bielsa, 4-0 Leeds and i hate trying to forecast a result in favor of leeds (But it's the Bielsa effect you know) Damn how much longer till saturday,as 2020 said it seems to be taking forever.
     
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  19. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    It may be very Leeds to slip up against a Rotherham, but only in recent years.

    Didn’t happen much under Don Revie, because Don prepared obsessively for EVERY game. As Bielsa is Don-reincarnated it’s just a case of IBWT.

    I expect we will slip up at some point but hopefully not yet. I don’t know about anyone else but I wish we’d keep a clean sheet or two, not good going into every game knowing we need to score 2 or 3 (even if we usually do).
     
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    They are looking for a southern hit man for their Southern Mafia clan.:biggrin:
     
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