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Hull City gradually losing the battle for hearts and minds...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. Asterix

    Asterix Well-Known Member

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    It is possible the coming of CTID was a result of the successful protest against the Huddersfield bubble. Sufficient like minded people saying "No". Took on not just the police but the legislation that allowed draconian treatment of supporters.

    Winning that battle gave the idea that changing the name could be similarly challenged. But that is what it became, a battleground, civil war.

    How many of the "it's his club, he can call it what he likes" still go to his club? Or they like him - don't.
     
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  2. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    In reply to City Man and Driff Tiger.

    If you take away the Hull City stuff which only a minority of the regional population know and care about, it leaves the vast majority of the public focused on their charitable donations and good deeds.
    Even in our circles there are still a few " it's his club he can do what he wants" "if you don't like the owners raise the money to buy the club, it is for sale you know" Just think how a non Hull City fan will see them, any talk of running them out of town and they will have their defenders and plenty of them.
     
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  3. Tentotwo

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    Not convinced we really have enough solidarity in our ranks to actually carry out what your suggesting mate because if we had,it would have been done by now.
     
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  4. City Man

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    More people than you think locally have them sussed out.

    The type of thicko who doesn't follow the fortunes of City or Hull either directly or via mates is unilkely to have heard of a University lecture theatre or library. Think the Allams have been exposed in the last 2 years as the ugly, grasping, malevolent owners they are. Their rep is shot, even among non sports people locally.

    Unfortunately we have some real passive flasker type fans who just want to gaze quietly at the game, and the bigger picture is not their interest or concern.
     
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  5. Tentotwo

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    Indeed.

    What can be done though when the types you mention have probably never seen really failure or experienced the kind of terrace culture some still refer to as moronic?
     
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  6. Blaknamberblood

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    Unfortunately the disease that is the Allams has poisoned the club to the extent that even the most ardent of supporters are totally apathetic about what happens next in the club's fortunes .. this IS the legacy they are leaving. While having the club at heart my total disenchantment with the way these ****wits treat the club .. the supporters and staff alike has pressed home my own personal commitment that I will not venture to the KC again until they leave. These so called owners talk about respect and loyalty but where is there's as custodians of the Club and fanbase. The only thing they are interested in is lining their pockets .. the interest they are giving themselves alone on the so called 'present to the City' makes me feel sick to the core.
    They epitomize the definition of greed, and the sooner they clear off and hand this proud club back to someone who actually has an interest the better. On that day I will return .. not until.
     
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  7. Asterix

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    I beg to differ. Rather like hookers and punters. Take the money, but they ain't going to fall in love.

    Ps edit cum addition. They haven't made these philanthropic gestures (pppppffffttttt) to impress the Kirkella postcoded populace nor Granny Brown and family safely esconsed in any other parish. They did it for honours. They been sussed, he may as well have just paid the tax instead.
     
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  8. City Man

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    Dunno if that is apathy.

    More like antipathy towards the owners,

    Most people are angry boycotters or reluctant attenders. It's a lose-lose situation.

    Unfortunately I also reckon some 'boycotters' have an element of closet glory hunter in them, and hide behind their anti Allam opinions. I have no empirical evidence of this, but suspect some now use it as an excuse not to attend.
     
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  9. Tentotwo

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    Embarrassing probability that last paragraph. Ehaw will love reading this..as if.
     
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  10. askewshair

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    Specifically war on fans who voted against the name change. The management of the E1/2 evictions was a very clever divide and rule manoeuvre. Many gave up at that point. For many others, it was the beginning of the end. I guess 99% of that cohort will have voted against the name change and were anti Allam. It's gradual cleansing of those who dare oppose him.
     
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  11. Erik

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    I have been boycotting since 2014. For the first few months, not attending matches was like going cold turkey. Now I find it difficult to care. I still get a bit excited about an upcoming game, but when it arrives my interest wanes. Why? I'm not sure. On Monday I couldn't wait for the first game of a new season, but after 30 minutes the game went off and on went the Amityville Horror that I'd recorded.

    I got the opportunity to attend a match on a friend's ticket back in February, the first time I'd been to the KC in three-and-a-half years, and it was like I'd never been away. I do fear, however, that when the Allams finally leave and I feel happy to return on a regular basis (and as a paying customer), my passion may have disappeared entirely.

    PS. Don't worry, I'll still be coming here in my capacity as a first rate wind-up merchant :1980_boogie_down:
     
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  12. southerntiger

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    Hopefully there will be a big bounce back in attendance pnce they leave.
    In the pre Allam days even though i only go to 5 or 6 game I intended buying a senior season ticket as soon as i reached 60.
    One of the first things they did (an early sign of things to come) was raise the senior age to 65 therefor scuppering my plans.
    As soon as they leave I will buy a season ticket to show my absolute relief and my support for the new regime.
     
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  13. Chazz Rheinhold

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    that's nick all over is that
     
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  14. Obadiah

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    He upset thousands of families and their friends when he evicted the sports clubs from the Airco Arena. Many of them weren't City fans. It left a bitter taste which is still there today. Add in the Hull FC fans and you can begin to see the damage he's done to his reputation in Hull.
     
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  15. SimonGraysJacket

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    Not one to stick up for the Allams (far from it if you read my previous posts), but if the bus pass age is now 65 and the state pension age is 65 (or 67 when I retire), then I think it is fair for the threshold for concessions to kick in at state pension age.........actual concessions hopefully one day.....
     
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  16. TwoWrights

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    Best tell Rotherham United that their £13 ticket price for over 60's is unfair.

    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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  17. Asterix

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    And of course his reputation was completely unblemished before his involvement with City.
     
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  18. tigerscanada

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    When the atmosphere becomes heavily polluted, the insincere statement "Football should be as free as the air we breath" leaves a distinctly unpleasant taste in the mouth.
     
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  19. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    But more people go to hospitals and see the donations they've made.

    I can see the damage he's done to his reputation among some groups of people but still think that the majority of people don't see it that way.
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

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    I know plenty of people with no interest in City or FC and their perception of him is no different to ours.

    The number of people who’d stick up for Assem online used to be very high, it’s now dropped to a tiny number.
     
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