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Don't like her too much as I have heard many Tory groups want her gone and Bafoon Boris is favourite to replace. I want Mogg TBH as he will scare those in the EU. I like him even though I think he is stuck between the 1818's and 2018.

 

Definitely.

(Sorry, can’t help myself)

 

I firmly believe that the Tories, taking into consideration the complete ****wittery they've shown over brexit, need to replace May before October.
She is going to sell brexit completely down the river.

 

I heard that interview I think. It was with Iain Dale who's excellent.

May knows she can't give much more without major unrest in her party and among leavers around the country. It's up to the EU now. If they try to get blood out of a stone, they'll end up with dust. Next month is going to be fascinating. Polls from the public are showing among Leavers and Remainers that people just want to get on with Brexit, deal or WTO. So, we'll see whether the EU flexes and if not, it's WTO.

As for Boris, he's been clever about the burka stuff. Most people agree with him. Women in burkas and niqabs look sinister. They do look like bloody bank robbers. Boris is just saying what most of us are thinking. If the Conservative Muslim Lord Shriek want to be surrounded by medieval practices, he should take a holiday in Iran where he can enjoy stoning a woman to death for adultery.

 

I suppose Johnson has been clever in that he is once again the centre of attention and if you read what he said, beyond a couple of playground snigger phrases, he made no point whatsoever. He thinks burkas look funny but he doesn’t want to do anything about them. He suspects they are often imposed on women by oppressive religious patriachies, but he doesn’t want to do anything about it. He certainly doesn’t want to do what pinko liberal regimes in Denmark, France and elsewhere have done and say ‘not in public, thanks’.

If Johnson is saying what the public thinks, the public isn’t thinking much. I would have been much more interested if he had said something along the lines of ‘the burka is an obvious sign of the subjugation of women, regardless of religion. It has to be done away and we need to dig deeper to root out this institutionalised misogyny, which has no place in our society however tolerant of different religious beliefs we want to be. Furthermore I welcome the Home Secretary’s decision to investigate the links between Muslim Pakistani immigrant subculture and the grooming and raping of teenage girls, as so bravely highlighted by Sarah Champion. This has nothing to do with the ongoing blight of Islamic terrorism, it’s about basic standards of civilisation’ instead of ‘oo err missus don’t them foreigners look funny!’ (I paraphrase).

He’s back in the Clarkson school of journalism, employed by the Telegraph to dream up opinions for money.

 

There's a lot to what you say, and Sarah Champion is a champion. I suspect Boris may have been testing the waters. He can't come out hard, because at the last election, the Tories got 19% of the Muslim vote, Corbyn got 75%. He's starting, or starting again, a dialogue that must take place but he doesn't want to be seen as a flagwaver for Muslim bashing. Despite the fact that only 3 or 4 thousand Muslim women actually cover their faces. For me, the religious face coverings represent extremism. We know that our ultra-laid back view in this country led to Londonistan and the use of London as a base for terrorists around the world.

It's time to get a backbone and be seen to root out extremist behaviour. I think Denmark, France, Holland, Germany, Austria have it right.

 

Dinnae apologise

 

First 10 minutes but the show is quite interesting.

 

I knew it was either Dale or Farage, and picked the wrong one! It's illuminating.

Interesting the continued talk of a "Centrist Party" that would include Cable, Umounhaha and Soubry. It may happen. If they're short of ideas for a name, they could call themselves the Lib Dems

 

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There was also a caller later in the show that mentioned Amazon and tax. Saying because of the EU they can use different countries and no one moans about that...I was tired so didn't understand that bit. I may listen again or someone can explain if they heard it.

 

Amazon is registered in Luxembourg, gets preferential tax treatment there, and avoids multi-millions of euros in taxes in other EU countries. The EU ordered Luxembourg to collect E250million from Amazon in back taxes last year. Lux is appealing. I assume the appeal is still underway.

 

wasnt ireland also ordered to collect taxes from one of these companys too
google i think

 

Okay I get it now? so after Brexit if we went on WTO we would get more tax from them?

 

Clothing representing extremism? Is that any worse than JRM having extreme views but not being an extremist?

Is the best way to show up a medieval practice of forcing people to wear certain garments really forcing people not to wear them (and for little reason beyond making some folk feel uncomfortable)

 

Good question. We'd certainly be free to make our own tax laws and set corporation rates without EU censure. But Amazon avoid massive taxes in every country it seems to me including the US

 

There are extreme views and there are extremist views. Christian Scientists have extreme views. JIhadis have extremist views.

I have no problem with turbans, skullcaps, headscarves etc. I do have a problem with face covering. Not just religious. Masks during demos too.

And I don't want to encourage extreme forms of Islam

 

Agree if I did that at a football match I would be arrested yet those lefty antifascist anti capitalists freaks can do it right in front of the police and get away with it.

 

My wife, who is a corporate communications specialist has just been sent a link to a job, with the strapline ‘who has the courage to take this on?’

Head of EU Exit Communications, Home Office.

Guess what the salary is for this thankless task.

 

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