Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

That is not an argument King.

 

DOF?

Nope. Just nope. No. No. **** no.

Levy's doing just fine. One or two will slip through our grasp, one or two will work out poor but ultimately we end up doing well on transfers under him.

 

I’m not arguing. I just fail to see how you genuinely think we’re one of the best clubs at transfers.

 

Then let me explain.

Steady progression has seen Spurs finish in the top 3 for the last three seasons. We are 6 in money terms and 3rd in the League.
All of the other 5 rivals spend more than us and have a bigger income atm. Just compare their spending and results against Spurs spending and results. It;'s not slightly different it's hugely different. Spurs are the most successful club in the market place and that is thanks to strategy adopted by Levy. TBH I am surprised I have to argue this at all, it is self evident if you look at the facts.

 

You haven't addressed my main point Spurf. I don't go into every window expecting us to act like City or Real. I do expect us to act with common sense. And this particular summer, when bizarrely there have been some absolute bargains available it highlights how pigheaded Levy's approach is.

Seri - linked with him for years and has a release clause of £25m. It may well be that Poch never wanted him but gut tells me Levy was already fixated on getting Grealish for £10m less (the amount we get for turning up to 4 CL group games btw) and so we let him pass.

Mawson - we need a CB. Poch has spoken twice in the past about his admiration for the player. Linked with him multiple times. We let him pass too.

Grealish - see above. Another Levy gamble designed to save pittance backfires and we will now be scraping the bottom of a very shallow and expensive barrel.

None of the above come anywhere close to breaking the bank or our wage ceiling. They do however come close to breaking Levy's peculiar way of dealing with things and therefore none of them worked.

Since really flexing our muscles in the 2015/16 campaign we have signed 2 players who have actually contributed positively to our on-field success. Wanyama and Dave. The rest have been projects, stocking fillers or sheer dross.

How anyone can claim we have the best transfer strategy is beyond me. We are blessed with a coach who can coax world class performances out of a squad with no more than 5 truly world class players. And he isn't being backed.

But look, hopefully another VDV miracle will occur. It's only been 8 years since the last one.

 

We have the second most valuable squad in world football according to the CIES. That would suggest we’ve done pretty well with transfers.

 

Unless Inter win by four goals v Athletico on Saturday we will win the ICC cup, a tournament between 18 of the top teams back up squads in Europe, apart from the Italians who not being involved in the world cup played a lot of their first team. We finished third in the Prem last year, why do we need this host of new players?

When Danny Blanchflower picked up the FA Cup, he was asked by the Royal presenting it 'how come the other team have their names on their tracksuits and Spurs don't?' Danny with his usual Irish Blarney replied, 'We don't need to have our names on our track suits because we all know one another!'

Sometimes continuity is the best way. Our squad is a year older, a year wiser, many if not most have a world cup behind them. I fancy our chances this term.

 

We have made huge progression on the pitch, but I think this is inspite of the transfer policy rather than because of it.

There is a likelihood now that we will have gone through an entire summer transfer window and not signed one single player. No matter how you look at it, that is appalling.

I just hope the players aren’t as annoyed as most of the fans.

 

Ask yourself why Seri and Mawson ended up at Fulham and not us or another top six side.

For sure, I really wanted Seri but clearly the club didn’t.

 

On the face of it a well constructed argument but where are the facts? It's all speculation about what might be or what might have happened.
As DH just pointed the second most valuable squad IN THE WORLD and you claim failure

 

Trophies won with this squad?

I’m a football fan not a business man

 

I'd say we've done pretty well with the manager.

Not a coach alive could go most of a season with 2 of his best and most senior players injured and have to resort to a Dier-Sissoko pivot for a dozen or more games and still finish 3rd.

The man is genuinely magic. Our transfer strategy is very much not and never has been. Still living off the unicorn dust of VDV and that one great window ahead of 2015/16.

 

Indeed that is clear from your arguments. I am a business man and a football fan.

 

And as a football fan you’d acknowledge that we’re a still a work in progress, no?

It’s taken us 17 years under Levy to become a side where fans are now disappointed at not winning the title. We used to be happy at just seeing a Ginola flick or a Teddy header. It may take us another 1,2 or 5 years but we’re moving in the right direction. I’d much rather earn our potential success than be a City or Chelsea who just buys it.

 

It might fit in with your view of what you would like (indeed what we would all like) but it does not fit any of the facts.
Please explain how the second most valuable squad in the world signifies a failure in transfer strategy

 

And who hired said coach?

Unicorn dust of VDV?

So Rose, Walker, Toby, Jan, Sanchez, Dier, Dembele, Alli, Son, Eriksen, Chadli, Berbatov, Modric, Bale, Carrick have all proven bad signings? I could go an as well to be honest.

 

The simple answer is that the other top 6 managers didn't want these players. Could be because they aren't that good, could equally be because they wouldn't work in their system (much like Martial would thrive under Poch but stagnates under Maureen due to different styles).

Long answer is:
Pool and Arsewipes got their business done very early.
Chelsea were (and still are) all over the place.
Maureen was busy moaning (and wants Toby, who is a better CB than Mawson).
City don't really need anyone.

Mawson in particular baffles me. We've seen firsthand that he is more than good enough for the PL. His style of play matches Poch's job description of a CB. Poch himself has spoken twice about his admiration for the player. Wages would be fine. Adds to HG quota.

And then? Oh he isn't worth £40m after all we'll sell him to fulham for half that.

I get the feeling other clubs see Levy's number flash on the screen and just don't bother picking up.

 

I think you're confusing value with success.

In order to translate one into the other, the past 4 seasons have shown quite clearly that we lack a few ingredients. Now that COULD mean lack of experience. But as the years tick by and suddenly Kane et al. are in their mid 20's it begins to ring hollow.

Until value = success we need to focus on on field progress.

Would you genuinely be content if come 5pm tomorrow we haven't signed anyone and are left with a bloated squad severely short on HG quota and with several key players itching for te exit?

 

But CK you’re moaning at Levy for not signing Mawson who lets face it, is a player you rate, not because he was a genuine target (or at least I don’t remember him being one). I like James Tarkowski, should I be pissed if Levy doesn’t sign him?

The club ultimately deems who they want, us fans may want a particular player but it doesn’t mean the club does. I definitely want a signing or two, preferably at CM and I’ll reserve judgement as to how successful this window is until the deadline has passed.