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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tue 24 July)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Jul 24, 2018.

  1. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    We'll put in a bid for him while he's having his medical at Forest <doh>
     
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  2. Marcos Barber

    Marcos Barber Well-Known Member

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    Alf, that will only massage his ego
     
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  3. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    See your pont davy,but if we sell our best players,were back to square one.
    If we actually signed some class then maybe,but so far weve signed nobody of any note.
    Just hope this changes but clock is ticking.
     
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  4. davy

    davy Well-Known Member

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    Thing is Este, I could see him wanting to go to Valencia. We'll see. I'm a bit concerned at his attitude though, side before self?
     
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  5. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    I'd laugh if he signs for Valencia and thinks to himself "thank **** I've finally got away from that moaning old **** from Harrogate" then realises Glory's moved there as well :biggrin:
     
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  6. davy

    davy Well-Known Member

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  7. Jammy 07

    Jammy 07 Well-Known Member

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    Some very interesting posts today so thanks to everyone for making our forum something worth visiting and contributing to.

    We're a relatively small band of brothers and when those who indulge in petty squabbles put their differences aside we are all the better for it.

    Should that ever happen I'll be sure to let you know.
     
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  8. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    Yes good point,
    Does side before self exist anymore,anywhere?
     
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  9. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    Just love the comparison table,
    Year formed,bla bla
    Twitter followers
    Facebook followers
    WTF
     
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  10. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Is that the Oxford team or ours. Doesn’t look great either way
     
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  11. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Some load of bollix to be honest. If the investment was 100 m then the article might have some credibility. Rads already blown the woods 18m on ****e so hardly going to make us champions of Europe again with a miserable 10m.
     
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  12. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    That lip is going to hurt this morning. Good job the hook was barbless.

    Olde motto.. stop giving it out equals stop getting it back.
     
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  13. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I assume our scouts are too busy searching the lower leagues of Spain and Japan so they can’t get to check out any who become available in the UK
     
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  14. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Slight correction, Orta has blown it... What I don’t get is Rads genuinely thought last seasons squad were top 6 material... Error one was before we’d replaced Monk, we signed Sacko, every fan thought why oh why?

    TC took charge, we faltered so in comes Heck, a guy suggested by Orta and who we paid £500k for. We all witnessed what then followed and we looked like relegation material.

    Bielsa comes in, obviously says every transfer in and out goes through him, nobody seems good enough (who we can afford) and he ships out a load of surplus half signed by Orta.

    We try for several players this season, we waste time negotiating with players we can’t afford, we miss out on players like Jozefzoon as we are late to the party and when he goes to discuss terms at Derby he meets with Lampard whereas with us Orta does the negotiating, nobody gets to meet with the messiah.

    So the question is, what is Orta doing to justify his wage, he needs to be shown the exit door but Rads can’t see what money Orta has wasted?
     
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  15. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    I was feeling cheerful till I read this spot on post...
     
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  16. lifecheshirewhite

    lifecheshirewhite Cheese

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    No you weren't,you only smiled as a baby because you had wind.
     
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  17. Whitejock

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    I'm not sure I agree with the judgement of Orta. First of all, the man is given a budget & a list of positions to fill. Which he did. But if you take the £8.9 opening bid we've received for Saiz, this alone covers the cost of EVERY player he's signed. Does this not demonstrate that he's not only found at least one cracking player, but he's making the club money too, in the long run. Surely that's not wasting money? Sounds to me that he fulfilled his job description. (Not sure it's fair to include Sacko in this assessment, as there is every chance that the signing was part of the previous pre-Orta loan deal.

    As for this season, I've got no doubt that he had a considerable list of targets to start with & would be in varying states of negotiation for many of them. Bielsa comes in & says an emphatic 'NO' to them, so he has to start from scratch, months behind his normal schedule. I have to say I have some sympathy for the man.
     
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  18. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Not true - unlike you to tell whoppers Neil <whistle>
    Cblicki - 1.5M
    Wiedwald - 500K
    Grot - 500k
    Klich - 1.5m
    De Bock - 1.5m
    Ekuban - 1.5m
    Alioski 1.5m
    Forshaw - 4.5m
    Saiz - 3m
    Tyler Roberts - 2.5m
    Yusuke Ideguchi - 0.5m

    Those lot cost you £19M alone (not including wages).
     
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  19. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    When you say Orta had a budget and list of targets or positions, Orta created his own list of positions, Rads would not have said to him we need 5-6 midfield players. Orta wasted loads of money on players not fit to wear the shirt.

    When Monk left we were 3 players short of something special, Orta signed a dozen players when there was no need. The money we received for Wood and Taylor spent on what?

    Yes Saiz might be a good return but because someone is willing to pay £8m it doesn’t mean he is worth it, jury is out amongst many Leeds fans if Saiz has anything to offer other than a sell on fee and what about the money eaten up on 4 year contracts?

    Bielsa comes in and says no no no to all of Ortas targets, why would Bielsa do that if they were any good? Either Bielsa is wrong and should accept the targets or the targets are more Anita DeBock Grott Lasogga Antonsson and all the other garbage signed by Orta.

    I’m sorry but Orta got one possibly two signatures right out of 14/15 that isn’t acceptable. To not do your homework on Vydra and Hernandez and Stockdale is also inexcusable
     
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  20. lifecheshirewhite

    lifecheshirewhite Cheese

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    Twisting it a bit there TC the list and filling it WJ is on about,was last summers list so you can knock off 4 of them and 9 million.
     
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