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Custard pie in the face award - SPA

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Bergkamp a Dutch master, Aug 27, 2011.

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Custard pie in the face award - SPA

Poll closed Sep 3, 2011.
  1. Senna

    18.2%
  2. Mercedes mechanic/team with regards to Schumachers Wheel

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. McLarens pit calls + Stratergy

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Maldonada

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Alonso - Pre Weekend comments

    0 vote(s)
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  6. Hamilton - Pre weekend comments + Crash

    27.3%
  7. Loon behind DC in BBC show

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  8. Red Bull so worried about the tryes they raced them

    36.4%
  9. Eddie Jordan, no real reason

    18.2%
  10. FIA - DRS zone

    0 vote(s)
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  1. RoadRunner

    RoadRunner Well-Known Member

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    You sir, are a freaking legend! I deem you, Sir Fred, fit enough to throw said custard pie in the face of said strategists! :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  2. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    We need to list the contenders for the Custard Pie award.
     
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  3. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Lewis Hamilton has to be a contender for bigging himself up before the event and then crashing.
     
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  4. Masanari

    Masanari Active Member

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    How about Red Bull for claiming how worried they were about the tyres and the safety of their drivers when it was their doing that caused the situation and that they started the race normally anyways after failing in their attempts to get an unfair advatage.
     
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  5. Chelsea_Forever

    Chelsea_Forever New Member

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    Yes, I would agree. As much as I am a fan of his, Spa was a disappointed weekend for him. But surely Maldonado is up there as well, even though what he did wasn't funny or a mistake.
     
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  6. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

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    the guy who thought leaving alonso out on the safety car period was a good idea
     
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  7. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    According to Pat Fry, pitting Alonso would have brought him out into traffic.
     
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  8. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    It should go to Eddie Jordan, at every race, for a reason no better than he is Eddie Jordan.
     
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  9. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    If you're going to say Maldonado for the collision, I think you've given one more reason for voting Hamilton, as he was also at fault for the collision.
     
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  10. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Hamilton is up there for claiming he was going to "destroy the field" and then destroying his car and a fence instead.

    Hard to nominate Red Bull when they had a 1-2, stupid decision with the camber angles, but they were still the class of the field.

    The FIA get it for me though, I thought DRS detracted slightly from an otherwise excellent GP.
     
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  11. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

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    I'll vote for either Maldonado, Alonso's stratergist, or Lewis failure to look in his left mirror
     
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  12. Masanari

    Masanari Active Member

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    Why? According to both Pat Fry and James Allen it was the right decision to not pit Alonso under the SC.
     
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  13. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    Seb Vettel on the grid (?) giving the Pirelli guy a right verbal lashing over the tyres he damaged, then going on to win with no tyre incidents whatsoever !
     
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  14. Chris 13

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    Surely it's got to go to the McLaren guy who told Button he was safely through stage 2 qualifying & to let Hammy through!
     
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  15. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    I'd go with this. Perhaps Newey for his bleeding-heart bleating to the BBC about what was essentially his fault. I mean, if he was so desperately worried for their safety then he should have thought of that before exceeding Pirelli's safety limits. Asking for special treatment to change the tyres just made it more outrageous.
     
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  16. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    gonna have to go for HAmilton, forgot the basics, Mirror, signal, maneuvure (ok, no need to signal, but...)
     
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  17. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

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    Don't get why people are defending Pat Fry, Seb got a free pitstop out of it and was able to land straight behind Webber and Alonso during the SC while Alonso stayed out with tyres that were a good 14-15 laps old (Inc Quali), 17-18 laps after the SC period. Sorry, if it was me I would of pitted him at the same time as Vettel, ending up behind him with Webber leading, with fresh tyres, knowing they will blister them quickly. He could of gone until the last 5 laps with another set of options and then to primes, but they were gambling for it to rain, it didn't work out.

    Sorry but for once in my F1 fan lifespan I disagree heavily to Pat Fry and James Allan with their opinions saying they made the right choice.
     
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  18. Masanari

    Masanari Active Member

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    This should explain it.

     
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  19. Delete Me

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    Whoa whoa whoa, hang on a second now...

    a) Good, so whats the problem taking a free pitstop and go toe to toe again without a Mercedes infront and the Red Bulls still having blister problems, 1 of them on the harder slower compound.

    b) So? Seb was behind Webber and didn't have much trouble getting past him with the fresh option when the race restarted.

    Yes James talks sense in that it would of been best to avoid a longer stint with the medium tyre, so why didnt they take the free pitstop and be touching Sebs rear wing with fresh options on the restart.

    Sorry for once I'm standing firm because that's his opinion, not fact.

    Alonso could of held on to 3rd.

    I've looked at the stratergy again, it might of been pointless going back in after those fresh options were put on (lap 10) they were only used for 3-4 laps, but he was battling with them for the distance. Seb went back in after 6-7 laps even with minor blisters but it wasn't even once considered pointless but a good call, why didnt they go on the safe call and just copy Seb entirely, because that's who they were fighting. Maybe 3rd would of been out of range if they did pit again, but he would of been able to pressure Seb the distance on his 3rd set of options and go for 1st or 2nd, but instead staying out giving Seb the advanatge to overtake him and take the lead on fresher rubber and eventually pulling a huge gap on everybody.

    I reckon they were hoping for rain at some point, hoping it then ending and then they use the remaining options. It was reported that it would rain 1 hour during the race. But those extra 3-4 laps on the option could of kept the distance on Jenson towards the end, though we are only estimating. Or maybe they were waiting for another SC to use the option...

    Maybe not a cream pie in the face call, but a tough one to call.
     
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  20. Masanari

    Masanari Active Member

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    The Ferrari was slower than the Red Bull so if Alonso had copied Vettel's strategy he would of been guaranteed to be behind both him and Webber because he would of come out behind them both and would not of had the pace to overtake because the Red Bull was faster than the Ferrari. His only chance to win was to stay out and keep track position and try and do one pitstop less than them. At the end of the day the Ferrari was just not quick enough to properly challenge for the win, but at least Ferrari went for the strategy that at least gave them an outside chance of a win in oppose to the one that had no chance at all.
     
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