Off Topic UK / EU Future

I am quite happy for there not to be direct correspondence between us for a while (at least not on here) because I do not want the others to read the type of poison which is going between us at the moment - they have better things to do. Also the reason that I would prefer not to add further oil to the fire is because it may lead to a permanent estrangement which, with so few of us on here, would be negative all round.

 

Just to say I did feel censured in a recent interchange.. And decided to withdraw from participating pro tem in this thread... And I guess many of us have felt criticised by others.. So may be we need to try harder..

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If it is not acceptable to post links, clips etc on threads like this if we consider them pertinent then so be it.. But I don't think it is helpful to make value judgements etc about what others post without some discussion.

I am mindful that I too have made similar crits if others posts in the past

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Many of us feel censured and criticised by others. I think most of the time most of us do try harder. However most posts I expect are done in a hurry and will not always meet the high standards we might want to reach - but equally we do not have to be overly sensitive if our views are considered foolish or worse.

Read the last line of my first post on this thread. I wanted this thread - this thread - to be link, quote and clip free. I hoped for a thread where people would think their position through and explain it. I was quickly disappointed although to be fair since then this thread has mostly been notable for the absence of clips, videos etc.
I have no "right" to how people post other than I started the thread and made a request. There are lots of threads with clips, quotes and videos - was I so wrong in hoping to make this one free of them?
As far as I am concerned this thread is now tainted and valueless. I cannot see it returning to the subject matter in a better way.
Perhaps others are right and I am wrong and political threads are a waste of time.
Am I allowed to be disappointed or is that my arrogance, etc etc?
I still believe if everyone only posted on points made - even calling them ridiculous,stupid etc (as many are) that would not matter. It is when we name a person as stupid etc that things really get bad.

 

If you're asking a direct question then yes it is your arrogance ! This cannot be interpreted as an insult because you asked the question. When you open a thread you do not own it, it becomes public property and you do not, subsequently, have censuring rights on it - only the mods have that. You would do well to look at your posts to me over the last week and then place this together with your last sentence.

 

C'mon boys lets not all fall out. I'd rather get back to normal and be the target. I'm actually quite used to it now after all this time.
Masochist or wot!

 

It's alright SH - I thought Cologne had agreed to leave it off this public board quote "I do not want the others to read the type of poison which is going between us at the moment" But that was clearly a lie. I told Cologne I would only respond to him if he mentioned me or attacked me again - which he just has. I was not even talking to him but to Yorkie. Also calling a person arrogant is a personal attack - if Cologne does not understand the difference between a question that is rhetorical as opposed to a real one then no wonder his posts have become so full of rubbish recently. I am more than happpy to trade insults with Cologne publicly if that is his desire. I have always given as good as I get.
He is also wrong. If you start a thread and you suggest some "house rules" you are perfectly entitled to moan if someone deliberately breaks them. That is not the job of a mod . It is each of our entitlements to moan about someone who does not post as we like. Let' face it- it is all Cologne ever does with you.
It seems Cologne wants a mod to come in and stop this nonsense.

 

I would urge you to read back on some of your posts to me back to around page 17, and, more or less continuously since. You may realize where the initial aggression came from. Are you also a mind reader in apparently knowing what I want ? Stop all of this Leo before the damage becomes too great for us to ever heal. We have more or less agreed to avoid each other - fine. It would also help not to mention each other to other posters otherwise the whole thing could get out of hand.

 

Time to call a halt to this bickering. I am thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to lock the thread for a week until things quieten down. I will think about it!

 

Read your own posts to me and others while you are at it. Putting people down if they disagreed with your world view. Not a mind reader but someone able to predict that if a thread becomes a war a mod will intervene - since you are creating a war it must be your intention. I had stopped responding to you and will stop again when you stop mentioning me or attacking me. It is your hands. Now carry out the promise you made above and stop your poisoning.

 

I promised that if Cologne does not mention me or attack me I will ignore any posts he makes - whether about me or anyone else. So it is in his hands. He chose to break his promise in #541 above and continue his attacks. Closing this thread for a week would not stop the poison leaking elsewhere. I will not mention him again nor will I respond to any post he makes if he does me the courtesy of not attacking me and not mentioning me in posts to others.

 

You were the one that carried it on by making me the subject of your text to SH. This has all gone on far enough, and I imagine that the others are heartily sick of it by now - just stop !

 

Just go on playing the victim !

 

Did you read your post #545 attacking me after your promise. Hypocrite and liar too.
I will stop - - after you.

 

Here you go again. Your mask has truly slipped. You had the pretence of being the nice guy - except where SH was concerned. Now you have shown your true colours. Post again and so will I until OFH is forced to end it.

 

I have had enough of this childishness Leo. I think by now that the whole forum has seen where the aggression is coming from. The matter is closed simply to spare the rest of the posters the rubbish which is going on here - the matter is closed !!!

 

You are the one carrying it on and I am happy for anyone to make their own decisionas to who is at fault. I suspect we will both be condemned but continue to pretend you are the good guy and me the baddie. You can stop posting and end this any time you want. You clearly do not want.

 

Yes, it is quite right I am fed up with reading this. I cannot speak for others but it really is time to call it a day. Trying to have the last word all the time is rather silly. If it doesn't stop now I will have the last word which will be to lock the thread.

 

Some of you will know why I have been quiet the last couple of days If she goes for a no deal we are heading for absolute disaster and the country really will have been betrayed. We're simply not ready to pull out without an implementation period. And this isn't project fear - it's the truth.

 

You know it - I know it - but there seem to be a core group of brexiters who disagree. What happens if they refuse to back TM in a deal?