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Ndong and Djilobodji fail to report for training

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Steve300002, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. marcusblackcat

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    One of the lads here said that this morning - sad isn't it that the law when you're a footballer is nothing like the law when you're a "real person"

    I know they put it down to "contract law" as opposed to "employment law" but I'd love to know how it's worded.

    If his contract is terminated then it must be paid in full (or, much like Rodwell, at an agreed settlement)
     
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  2. E.T. Fairfax

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    Cos if we sack them we'll lose out on their transfer fee. Players have the clubs by the short and curlies. It'll be illegal but i think that players who have grounds for dismissal shouldnt be allowed to play for or be anyway near another club until their previous contract runs out. The club will still miss out on a transfer fee but then the player will miss out on wages and game time.
     
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    I'm surprised footballers arent threatened with extreme physical violence by wage payers in order to toe the line. 'If you dont come back to training we'll break yer legs!'
     
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    If it’s contract law , because failure to show is happening and will probably happen more in future the way things are going, all the clubs should get together and agree that they’ll all make their contracts include “ no show , no pay and a fine “. A player can’t say no I don’t like that I’m going elsewhere , cos he’d know that elsewhere it’d be the same
     
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  5. clockstander

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    Transfer fees should be scrapped.
     
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  6. marcusblackcat

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    Great idea in principle. But the problem you have is when do you scrap them? If you scrap them now then the teams who paid £x million for their players will kick off rightly too. Unless the FIFA refund all last transfers it can’t work in a fair way sadly
     
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    Compensation would be one way, using the Sky money instead of pouring it into agents pockets might be justifiable.
     
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    Don’t he so bloody stupid. The money needs that go to those people andremoved from the game completely. Why would common sense matter?
     
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    Or fans like you and me. <cheers>
     
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    Even if you scrapped transfer fees the players would then argue that the clubs had more money for their salaries and it would likely simply drive them upwards even faster. As for agents they already take a cut of contract renewal fees and signing on fees so it really wouldn't do anything to quell that particular issue.

    I don't think there's anything can be done to halt it at this stage without taking drastic measures to change how football operates in this country. There's zero chance of that happening.
     
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    I have no real alternative plan, but surely something needs to be changed, the current system invites abuse.
     
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    Huge amounts of money invite abuse. The problem is wider than football but it is a sharp example of it, especially as it used to be the working mans game/escape.
     
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    WET BLANKET TIME

    Try putting the genie back into the bottle.

    Of course there used to be a maximum wage but it was set at about the same rate that a top skilled worker would get, £20 a week, (early sixties)
    It was manifestly unfair that a team that would get gates of 40,000+ for 21 home games earning around £160K pa would be paying their whole squad about £24k a year in total.

    However, even if it were possible to put a cap on UK wages for players the effect would be to chase the overseas ones, (and the top 'Home' players) to where the money was.
    SKY throw their vast amounts at the Premier League only because it attracts many of the worlds top players into a competitive, (almost) , league.

    We are about to find out from close hand just what standard of football would be left for spectators once the best had departed..

    Football is a world game and operates on an international basis. ONLY an organisation such as FIFA could even try to put some controls in place and these would have to comply with National Laws.
    (FIFA's track record at complying with any sort of law is not good).
     
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    Here's a radical idea, make the FA responsible for paying 50% of all the wages for every single player playing under their jurisdiction, but let the FA take half the tv money that's meant to go to teams too. Nowt like forcing the game into radical change when the governing body is also being lumbered with the bills brought on by this culture. It will force them to distribute money more even across leagues and make them install a wage structure. While it's on the clubs it's the clubs who suffer while the agents and players prosper and the FA look in unaffected and unwilling to make changes to the system.

    The FA would never do it a million years though, they rather let the sport die than take responsibility for the game.
     
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    They are a bit pre-occupied with seeing how much money they can make for themselves by punting Wembley these days fella
     
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    Ironically though, it was the working man who demanded that he be paid for playing sport in the first place. It was only the 'gentleman amateur', from the upper classes, who played the game for the love it. Admittedly, initially it was to make up for the time he had to take off work but once the Corinthian spirit had gone, it was always going to be a slippery slope to this (helped along the way of course by Jimmy Hill and his campaign to abolish the maximum wage- something else to blame him for).
     
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  17. clockstander

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    Well this is a good read, and although this forum wont change the world order it does lend food for thought. <applause>. Its what forums are be about, or should be.
     
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