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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    Is this the Carry On thread? Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me!

    (oh no, that's the transfer thread talking about Fraser Forster)
     
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  2. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    In all seriousness, memes are covered by fair use and YouTube already does this. It's why you always see football highlights in a small box with stuff around it so that it isn't automatically removed.

    Big businesses would be against targeting memes too as they use them to promote their buisness/product and politicians use them to get elected president of the US apparently.
     
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  6. ImpSaint

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    Your remainer champion Danny Dyer was very entertaining last night. I seem to recall hearing that all leavers were uneducated and didn't know what they voted for. Did Danny know what he was voting for? Seems not.
     
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    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Danny was excellent, and is now all over Social Media.


    His honest cockney wit and wisdom summed up the whole tragic charade. "It's like some mad riddle that no one understands...and what's happened to that twat David Cameron who called it on? How comes he can scuttle off...?"

    Well said Danny.
     
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    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    "He (Cameron) called this on, now he's in Europe, in Nice, with his trotters up..." <laugh>


     
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    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    I agree with his Cameron stuff but he quite obviously didn't know what he was voting for.
     
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  11. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    How can someone voting for the status quo not know what they were voting for? It was the leavers who had no clue what would happen, as has been demonstrably proved in the fiasco that the exit talks have become.
     
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    No, that's the point Imps. None of us did, which is why such a vital issue for our country's future should never have been put to a plebiscite.

    We elect representatives to make those sort of decisions for us, but in his arrogance Cameron put party before country in trying to outflank Ukip.

    He put a vital decision in the hands of people ill equipped tp make it, and in so doing gambled with all our futures - he thought the public, if they didn't understand the issues, would at least listen to the people who did. But the voice of reason was barely heard throughout the campaign, drowned out in large part by the jingoistic drums of the right wing press.

    Swayed also by a few charismatic opportunists like Johnson and Farage, both of whom continue to nurture their own European interests, the electorate split almost exactly down the middle on an issue very few on either side had any real grasp of. And now here we are, staring into the abyss.
     
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    I can see where your "spin" on this one is going and completely understand it but............Danny Dyer is a remain voter and supporter, stating he hasn't got a clue what Brexit is and attacking the "self appointed" leader of the remain campaign. And I am looking at this from the viewpoint that the remain side being a lovely unbigoted tolerant lot cointinually state that leavers are old, stupid, uneducated bigots.
     
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    First time, i've seen that, I respect Danny a hell of a lot more now!...<laugh>
     
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  15. Archers Road

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    Calling Leave voters names acheives nothing Imps, I know that - and I have done a fair bit of that myself.

    The country is now more divided than it has been at any point in my lifetime, possibly at any point since the English Civil War. What is your suggestion for getting it re-united again?
     
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    Winning the world cup? Or will that be suggested is a leavers thing and the remainers "don;t care about the national team anymore?"

    I have no suggestions. There is a vast chasm of modern social class nothing to do with the old class of upbringing. There is no way to bridge this in the near future because it isn't just a "bad" politician vs a "good" politician with hapless people following their tribe. While both sides seem to think the other is the sheeple and they are not the reality is that neither side is really "sheeple" because there has been a societal shift in terms of expectation.

    Yes politicians (and I would suggest vested interests + media) are happy to utilise those societal shifts to drive their own interests we have a vast difference now between people who are doing "quite nicely" and those that have been hammered quite literally by those with money.

    The problem being that the narrative pushed is that those that have been hammerd (in terms of migrant workforces) are lying and lazy and those who do not have experience of that believe this hook line and sinker which creates resentment. People don;t like being called liars.

    And yes this is the crux of a vast amount of leave votes. People who were affected by migrant workforces being called liars and lazy not just by politicians and media but by a large amount of society that believe this narrative.

    That has created a vast divide and of course while the TV/internet continues to push this narrative and the tabloids continue to aggressively over exaggerate something that did not need exaggerating then there is no way of uniting again.

    Unfortunately in this day of social media and instant reaction to everything, herding opinion etc I don;t think the divide will disappear in my lifetime. Modern politicians like divides and the modern world is too hooked on jumping on any cause (good or bad) the instant they hear about it.
     
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    So BAE systems has earned a fat contract to build 9 ships for the Australian Navy!!! They will be cock-a-hoop with this news in the offices of the Mail and Express, and on the backbenches of Tory party. There is a country soemwhere in the world that did away with its military altogether and decided it would be better to fund education and health, and as a result its economy grew. Finland is neutral, so does not have a standing army facing the might of Russia, but it never feels threatened. As a result it has more to spend on other things.
     
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  20. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    um, they're all being built in Australia!
     
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