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  1. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Ndong to Torino still possible
    Didier Ndong’s proposed move to Serie A side Torino broke down recently, despite the Turin-based club agreeing a fee of around £6.6m for the Gabon international midfielder. According to reports, an agent asking for a hefty fee caused Torino to walk away from the potential deal.

    However, new reports from Tuttosport in Italy suggest that the deal may still happen, with Torino still keen to buy the player who spent the second half of last season on loan at Watford.

    The report claims that once Ndong returns to Sunderland for pre-season training - which should take place later today - the player and his representatives will meet with the staff of Sunderland to try and facilitate a transfer.

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  2. marcusblackcat

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    My mate said this earlier and I couldn't find it but good news if true. Agents are unbelievable

    Player wants to transfer
    Clubs agree fee
    Player agrees terms
    Agent asks for money - deal off! ****ing crazy set of events and rules (players have to have an agent)
     
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  3. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    Surely those who made the rule that players must have agents , should be looking at what’s happening and making a rule that prevents the agent from being the sole party of the four interested that can stop the deal . At least make some structure of some percentage of the transfer fee being the max they can charge.
     
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  4. spirit of 73

    spirit of 73 Well-Known Member

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    Is it too simple to say to the player "it's your agent working for you so you pay him" simples
     
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  5. clockstander

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    Agent/Torino playing games here.
     
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    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

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    The year up to Jan 2017, football agents were paid £174m in the Premier League!!!

    Nothing short of a national scandal!
     
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  7. jdsafc

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    He needs to change his agent
     
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  8. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely agree . But, the agent will just say to the player - you asked £x per week. Now you need £x per week more to pay me - so up your demands. If they won’t pay you more , I’ll stop the deal
     
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    What about free transfers?

    Agents are scum and their reputation is utterly deserved, they will eventually if left unchecked kill off much of the proper fans love of the game. However, I do appreciate the idea that players (many of whom are young, uneducated, don't speak the language or just plain thick) need to be protected from having to deal directly with boards when it comes to negotiating contracts - it isn't a fair bargaining position. It does need to be controlled/ regulated far more than it currently is and perhaps a general percentage being the norm (a percentage of transfer free and total wages) - if the agent pays more the player has to pay him. I suspect the issue there though is tax (the player has paid tax on their earnings and that money would then be taxed again going to the agent.
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    This ain't back on surely. Club like Torino wouldn't pay over 10k of his wages, got to be a better deal out there for us.
     
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  12. polyphemus

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    No, it's not too simple but it may be too obvious for the 'rule makers'.

    It's the fault of the Clubs though going back to the days, pre George Eastham, Shack and Jimmy Hill when clubs ripped players off with a rigid maximum wage structure.

    Following this being scrapped, players learned to have their Solicitors negotiate their salaries for them.
    This wasn't what solicitors were trained for and most weren't particularly good at it.
    Clubs took advantage.

    The Players Union stepped in to offer a more professional service to their members and if things had stayed this way all MIGHT have been well BUT Agents, often former players started to creep in.
    They were quickly followed by the shysters who's main/only interest was using their Clients to make money for themselves, irrespective of what was best for the client.

    And to compound the stupidity of Clubs THEY started to use agents to act for them.
    Their agent could have a chat with any players agent without the club being guilty of tapping a player up or 'unsettling him'.

    In all of this I find it hard to blame The Players.
    Even if they wanted to, they can't change the System.
    But the Clubs can, through their National Association and by just refusing to bend over for these sharks, much like Torino may have done here.

    The implication though, to me, is that this agent will now try to get his pound of flesh from SAFC, since the players are back at the club and since Torino have turned him down.

    My first reaction would be Feck OFF, but I wonder if this might be cutting off the nose to spite the face.

    So far our new owners have handled things well.
    Lets see what they do with this one.
    It might be a real beggar to sort.
     
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  13. Nads

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    Top paid player is Belotti on 30k, N’dong will be on not much less than that, they ain’t gonna give him parity with Belotti and Basselli.

    Better hoping that a decent sized French club come in.
     
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  14. Brian Storm

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    They'd be bonkers to make him a top earner imo.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Stranger things have happened mind. Look at us signing him for up to 13m and putting him on a big wedge when we could have had M'Vila for half the fee.
     
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    M'Vila :(

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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    At the time it didn't kill me, i presumed we knew what we were doing. When we signed that sack of **** instead I thought he must be a ****ing monster...

    How bloody wrong I was.
     
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  18. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    I was devastated. Better than us and he wanted to come. It will forever break my heart.
     
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    Don't get me wrong I am going to cry myself to sleep now, but M'Vila did get released from Rubin Kazan and now plays for a mid table French side so maybe we didn't miss all that much in the end seeing as that's the level macaroni head is at.
     
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    Just the fact that we missed out on a battler with a lot of technique for a ****ing ghost and paid twice the money... sort of thing that played a part in us going down.
     
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