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Sochaux close on Whites winger

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  1. Mugsey

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    this would abe a nightmare but fukn typical of the runt in charge of us!!!!
     
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  2. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    i see what he brought to our team last season, he was something new, no one expected him to be the player he was. He scored some goals but he is standing in the way of the team development and i think nunez is a better player
     
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    We have good cover,as long as the money is spent on the defence,otherwise we`re knackered,if not so already,bates please sell up?
     
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  4. Josh-LUFC

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    <laugh><laugh> i dont think hes reading mate
     
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  5. Monster-Leeds - I-Ate-A-Bee

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    How can a player of 23 stand in our way? The lad has so much to learn.. But while were trying to compete against some very good sides, you need match winners, and he's exactly that!
     
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  6. Monster-Leeds - I-Ate-A-Bee

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    Bates spend? that's 2 good to be true!
     
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  7. Josh-LUFC

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    yea i see that but would you say nunez is a match winner? He proved against donny that he can pull anything out of nowhere. The advantage of keeping gradel is obviously that he is still young and always improving but if we can get a decent fee for him we should take it is my point
     
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  8. Jerel Ifil

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    Josh, you seriously think Nunez could better 18 goals, five assists and track back every game to help the defence? And out on the wing?

    There's no way Gradel hinders the team's play. He's an integral part of it. His temperament is fine and people who say it's not are the sort who went to the Bristol Rovers game and haven't been to Elland Road since. Decision making, first touch and snatching at shots? No more than any other attacker in our team. His shooting is superb and if you look back over his goals, 75% of them are from the quality of the shot rather than him simply skinning lumbering Championship fullbacks with his pace and passing it into the net.

    I could make similar criticisms of Nunez who blasts quite a few shots over the bar, for instance. It doesn't hinder his overall game, which is vital to our season and whether we really can challenge for promotion.

    Quite simply: without Gradel we're midtable at best.
     
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  9. Monster-Leeds - I-Ate-A-Bee

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    Ambition around leeds United at the minute is a big fat juicy plum up our arses!!
     
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  10. Mugsey

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    Nunez is a squad playuer not someone to base a team around he is very mucha work in progress we NEED to keep Gradel
     
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  11. Monster-Leeds - I-Ate-A-Bee

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    Of course he is.. But supposing Nunez has a leg break? who's our match winner?? Well gradel playing his football in france! Squad's win leagues, Man U's 3rd team could get them champions league football
     
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  12. Josh-LUFC

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    I dont mean he hinders the team's play i meant stand in the way of us signing players because we dont have any money. I do see nunez makes mistakes obviously. In a perfect world to be honest i would play

    Howson----Clayton----Brown----Snoddy

    and have nunez on the bench still. And i definately think his first touch is the worse of the attackers especially, and his decision making probably worse than others as well, doesnt matter though. No 1 player is vital to our season's objectives especially max gradel. Again we need to spend some money on our defense. I would see this as an ideal end to the transfer market.

    We sell gradel for 5m+
    We sign lichaj (permanently) or an LB. Probably better off getting a LB
    We sign Forssell

    We then have at least improved the defense even if its only slightly, we allow lees to play at CB which will hopefully tighten up the center if we sign lichaj
     
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  13. Best Fans

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    Completely true. How many times can you actually remember Gradel skying a shot? He does shoot quite a lot but 9/10 they are on target.

    His direct running, unpredictable play and pace are vital for our play, especially with our high tempo football. None of our wingers are like that - Snodgrass is more of a playmaker looking for a pass, Sam beats his man and puts a cross in and Nunez doesn't really have the defensive qualities to play left mid.

    Gradel also has great work rate. The thing is, he has said he wants to stay. He hasn't said to Leeds that he won't sign a contract, he's asked for a certain wage. The club could try to get him to lower that - what are negotiations for? Even if he doesn't budge on it, it's £25k a week, which the club should be able to afford for our best players. He's 23, would be worth £5/6million if he was under a long contract so it's not a stupid decision to give him these high wages. If Leeds want to end up in the Prem, Gradel shouldn't be allowed to leave.
     
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  14. Monster-Leeds - I-Ate-A-Bee

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    Howson on the left wouldn't work, as we had seen that last year! To me now, that line up looks 2 defensive. It's either Nunez or Gradel, maybe even sam, but 3 central midfielders in a 4-4-2. no way
     
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  15. Jerel Ifil

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    Have you ever seen Howson play on the wing?

    By the way, I admire your optimism that at least 3m of a 5m transfer fee would be reinvested in the team, but let's look at the last precent: Delph. We sell him for a figure reputed to be 6m. We fail to rebuy Thorp Arch which would have cost 6m. We spend about 800k in the transfer window and a little bit more on wages (i.e. what you'd expect even the poorest of clubs to invest even if they hadn't just sold Delph. We scratch around the loan market and are only able to fund transfers with Arsenal TV money. We continue not to spend any of the Delph money to this day, operating at probably the lowest turnover:wage ratio in the division (in the country indeed).

    So please tell me again that you think we'd be given 3m to spend if Gradel were sold. We should already be able to afford Lichaj, Forssell and any others if needs be. It's just that a certain someone is standing in the way of that happening.
     
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  16. bigfatboab

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    It's pretty clear if Smith comes back to Leeds (as I stated in my topic), then someone has to go to pay for him, this will be Gradel and there's nowt we can do about it.
     
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  17. Liw

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    I honestly don't think Josh knows anything about football

    Stop defending the club blindly
     
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  18. MarkoLUFC

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    I don't give a **** if it's good business or not - business isn't why I buy my tickets. Technically we are all investors in the club, as we pay money to see them play, and that money is supposed to allow the club to succeed on some level. All I can see happening is profits being made - profits that aren't getting injected back into the club in any real way, and we don't get a share of those profits - so why should we care? We just want to see our team do well.
     
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  19. The-Don

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    Apparently Sochaux have denied they are signing gradel now :)
     
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  20. Josh-LUFC

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    i dont defend the club blindly. Maybe i defend the club further than most fans are willing to go but i do see many issues with the club. Gradel is nothing special and he can be replaced, i dont know why that is hard to comprehend for some people. We need to spend money on the defence and maybe the midfield. To do this funds need to come from somewhere, i say sell gradel and those funds have been created, we sacrifice a luxury which i dont think we can afford to have this season in order to make a more complete squad rather than the attack being very good and the defence being very bad. Especially considering how covered we are in that position, we really wouldnt be weaker by selling and if we were it wouldnt be by much. If you dont understand that then YOU dont understand football, simple as.
     
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