From what I gather from the link you posted, he is studying an ancient text, called the Book Of Mormons. I have never heard of the book but am assuming its a bible of another religion. I do not believe in God or Religion, even though I am a catholic and was made to go to church for many years. I think that Jesus might have existed but I dont think he was the son of god, my logic just does not allow me to believe in a god, though I might be wrong. If he believes in this book, then fair play, IMO its no worse than studying the bible, the quran, the tanakh or any other "sacred" text for that matter. You dont question someone who reads the bible and who believes in god's intelligence, or at least I dont, so I do not question his, and I certainly dont think it constitutes totally disregarding his views on thermite.
Have you never heard of an Italian being sarcastic eddie? He was Centre Right of Italian politics he was mocking the Left who were Anti Berlusconi. Originally Posted by The Guardian In November 2007, the Corriere della Sera reported that Cossiga had declared that everyone knew that 9/11 had been engineered by the CIA and Mossad with the "help of the Zionist world" to discredit the Arabs. He was, of course, being ironic â though this did not stop the statement circulating all over the internet. This article appeared in the Italian newspaper La Stampa, written by Cosiga himself. He affirms, "I refuse the conspiracy theory, which is a smart and sometimes sincere contrafaction of reality caused by the fear of that (reality)". And also: "Rembering how "open" american society is, I think it's very unlikely, I may say impossible, that 9/11 was an inside job". He also said this: "As I've been told, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow (interview appeared on 30 november 07) the most important chain of newspaper of our country should give the proof, with an exceptional scoop, that the video (which in reality is an audio tape) in which appear Osama, leader of "the great and powerful movement of islamic revenge Al Quaeda" - God bless him! - and in which are formulated threats to our ex president Berlusconi, is nothing more than a fake realized inside Mediaset studios (the huge television group owned by Berlusconi) in Milan and sent to arabic television Al Jazeera. Do you honestly belive he would say Belusconi was in on it? He also said this too: "In a few days will occur the anniversary of the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon by the terrorists of the powerful Islamic movement Al Qaeda, and of the crash of a third kamikaze plane (destined to strike the White House), maybe caused by the terrorists who reacted to a revolt by the passengers, or, more probably, caused by the shootdown by the US Air Force, on the orders of the president of the US ..." He thought the plane that crashed was "Shot down" - so do I as a matter of interest- but he certainly is not a believer that 9/11 was an inside job as plenty of people have suggested.
Can we not just call a truce & say Bin Laden planned the attack which the CIA knew about but did not prevent it as they realised they could sue it to their advantage?
Can you just answer the question, Do you believe this man who says that Jesus visited ancient America?
I will answer your original question Medro "Do you believe this man when he says Jesus visited ancient America? " NO Though I thought I covered that in my first post, and was it not actually the book that says this? He just subscribes to the book?
Francesco Cossiga, who has died aged 82 of cardiovascular illness, was the president of Italy from 1985 to 1992. For the first five years of his presidency he behaved like his predecessors, pretending to be a father of the nation, assuming the required gravitas, or occasionally relinquishing it during one of the frequent government crises, when a past of wheeling and dealing turned out to be useful. Then, in 1990, Cossiga began to speak his mind: "What a relief," he confided later, "It was like removing pebbles from one's shoes." He became sarcastic, ironic, polemical, lunging against the right, then against the left, making fun of his former colleagues. He became known as "il picconatore" or the pickaxe-wielder. Some began to doubt his sanity. Cossiga had a serious purpose. He was convinced, and subsequent events substantiated his view, that the sclerotic Italian political system, so long sustained by the cold war, would have to change drastically after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Had Cossiga confided such forebodings to the inner circles of politics, no one would have taken any notice. He decided to go public, but, in so doing, he had to abandon the careful, coded and occasionally incomprehensible language of Italian politics and wield his pickaxe. He obviously relished the role, telling the press: "I have given you plenty to write about!" He justified himself (while still president) by declaring: "In a normal country, if a president of the republic did what I do, they would put him away at once. But is this a normal country? No! It barely moves. And I, as president, do what I can to signal the scandalous nature of its abnormality." And he continued: "In a country where the government governs and the opposition opposes, in a country with little organised crime, where judges judge, villains are arrested by the police, citizens pay their taxes ⦠well, in this kind of country I would be put away. But here it's different. It's the country that is insane." Cossiga was a native of Sardinia, a poor and sparsely inhabited island, once known mainly for its sheep and cheese, which has produced more than its share of leading politicians: Antonio Gramsci, the Italian Marxist; Antonio Segni, twice prime minister and president of the republic; and Enrico Berlinguer, the former leader of the Italian communist party. As is often the case, local politics is in the hands of a few families (Berlinguer was Cossiga's cousin and both were related to Segni) and those who are bright and determined can move quickly to the capital to represent those left behind. Cossiga joined the DC (Christian Democracy) party aged 16, graduated in law from Sassari University at 20 and was an MP at 30. In 1966, he became a junior defence minister in a government led by Aldo Moro and in 1976 became its youngest-yet home secretary. This was a fateful appointment, as he was in charge in 1978 when Moro, his friend and protector and an architect of the "historic compromise" with the communists, was kidnapped by the Red Brigades and killed 55 days later. Moro begged Cossiga to save his life by negotiating with the terrorists, but Cossiga, backed by the prime minister Giulio Andreotti, refused all compromise. In retrospect, most acknowledge that this was the right course, but at the time it was controversial. The Moro affair over, Cossiga resigned, announcing he was "politically dead". The resurrection followed almost immediately, when he became briefly prime minister (1979-80). In July 1983, he was elected president of the senate and, finally, in 1985, at the age of 57, president of the republic, the youngest so far. He had been, hitherto, a fairly uninteresting politician, more or less permanently in government. His main claim to fame was to have been so detested by radicals that his name was sprayed on city walls as "Kossiga" (and with the "ss" as in the Nazi SS). As a result of Cossiga's outspokenness as president, other tongues loosened. Andreotti, never a friend and never one to be upstaged, revealed the existence of a secret network, Gladio, set up under the auspices of Nato to organise an armed anti-communist resistance should the country "fall" to the Reds. Cossiga, it turned out, had played a significant part in Gladio. This reinforced conspiracy theories suggesting that the secret services and the CIA had had a hand in the terrorism of the 1970s and that Gladio was somehow part of this. Indeed, some sources (including a former head of Italian counter-intelligence) claimed that the US secret services even had knowledge of the bomb placed in Piazza Fontana in Milan in 1969, for which the anarchist Giuseppe Pinelli (the hero of Dario Fo's play Accidental Death of an Anarchist) had been arrested and allegedly "suicided". Cossiga, while distancing himself from the more serious charges, accepted that he had been involved in Gladio. A subsequent communist attempt to impeach him failed. As a former president, he became senator for life. And he continued to enjoy his transmutation from colourless to colourful. He revealed that, when he was prime minister in 1980, it had been the French (and not the Americans or home terrorists) who, in hot pursuit of a Libyan MiG jet fighter, had mistakenly shot down in mid-air an Italian domestic plane, killing all its passengers. In November 2007, the Corriere della Sera reported that Cossiga had declared that everyone knew that 9/11 had been engineered by the CIA and Mossad with the "help of the Zionist world" to discredit the Arabs. He was, of course, being ironic â though this did not stop the statement circulating all over the internet. Asked in 2008 if he supported Silvio Berlusconi's tough line on student protest, he replied that the Italian state, being weak, should do what he did in the 1960s: infiltrate the movement, encourage them to burn shops and cars, and then, with popular support, use brute force, and send the radicals to hospital, along with their professors. It had become difficult to take him seriously. Yet he had written a book about Sir Thomas More, so perhaps he did take himself seriously. In 1960, he had married Giuseppa Sigurani, from whom he was divorced in 1998. They had two children, Anna Maria, now a writer, and Giuseppe, currently junior minister for defence in Berlusconi's government (his father's first job). ⢠Francesco Cossiga, politician, born 26 July 1928; died 17 August 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/18/francesco-cossiga-obituary
This BBC show is a shocking bit of journalism. They are concentrating on winding that young fella up, not listening or letting him present his case. The amount of issues that they are having the most difficulty explaining are just not mentioned. Shocking biased journalism at its worst
Look eddie and Jacky feel free to continue to believe want you will, at first I was impressed by the arguments for 9/11 being an inside job but when I decided to start reading some of the materials and watching videos of people debunking the theories I gained a whole new perspective. If you look for evidence that supports the theory you will find it, I looked for evidence to disprove the theory and found it in abundance. Try this. http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=91 If you know who James Randi is you will know he's no Government stooge.
What the ****? This is the first I've looked at this thread. The title mentions rape then the first comment I see is someone answering a question about Jesus visiting ancient America Losers
"Look eddie and Jacky feel free to continue to believe want you will" And same to you Dev "watching videos of people debunking the theories I gained a whole new perspective." Im sure rkowens is right up your street, unfortunately most of his debunking videos are easily debunked themselves. [video=youtube;0esUFZcMtdA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0esUFZcMtdA[/video]
You see what I'm getting at. The fella that you told us to listen to, you also think that he talks **** as well.
No i dont see what you getting at, unless what your trying to get at, is every person with any religous view whatsoever is not credible on any subject? Is that what your gettting at?
