Match Day Thread 2017/18 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Where did I calculate anything?
Good for your mum and her family. There's a few Chelsea fans who've stuck by their team since forever, but there's a lot of plastic fans who've turned up since the Roman days. City were packing their stadium when they were back in the first division.

 

Man City didn't need to introduce plastic flags either

 

I didn't say you'd calculated anything, I asked how you had, specifically because I suspected that you hadn't and had predicated your contention on a greater dislike of Chelsea than City. I can't fault you for that but I detect a bias I'd rather you examine and eliminate first, perhaps by looking into attendance records through the years. I'm quite prepared to accept City fans are top folk and Chelsea fans are all glory-hunting ****ers who work in the City and steal the savings of grandmothers in the north but I'm just not buying it. Did City really get greater attendances in their quiet years than Chelsea?

City average attendances
1970-1986 - 41.687
1987-1999 - 28.273
2000-now - 54.070

Chelsea average attendances
1970-1986 - 40.342
1987-1999 - 34.751
2000-2018 - 41.902

Given the respective capacities, it appears City's support diminished considerably and has only been boosted to great heights this millenium, which we must suspect is an average boosted by attendances since it was bought in 2008, while Chelsea's has been more consistent since the FA Cup/Cup Winners Cup wins of 1970/71, when my source's stats begin.

Data sources:
http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/manc.htm
http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/chls.htm

And I did this while drunk. Research is not the enemy, people.

 

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Chelsea attendances only went up when they got drawn against a big club in the cup like villa or Everton lol.

League attendances was piss poor. And what kind of club needs to supply flags to their fans!!

In fairness though they stole our torres one and was too ******ed to change it lol.

 

Anyone else think Ashley Williams is mad to think he's going to be fit for the start of new season.

 

IT beat me to it though i was going for
Will anyone notice the difference.

 

Stop laughing.....

It’s 10th....

 

Firstly he had a 1 year deal at Watford with an option of a second.

If he didn’t lose the dressing room then why did the results turn to ****?

 

Will Chelsea get higher attendances once Roman gets his visa and builds the ground?

 

Fixed

 

Oh the joys of stats which tell you anything you like.
Curious that the averages are from 87 to 99 when Chelsea were in the top division, making cup finals and winning trophies in the latter few years of that whilst City were languishing in the second division for a few of those years, winning nothing...wonder if that helps pad those figures up. And they were still only 6k less on average! Christ, what a useless set of average figures.

And why mention capacities? When the 90s came around and all stadiums had to become all seater, they both had there abouts 34k seater stadiums and have increased at different points in their history. So unless you want to work out %attendance of capacity for every year, it's a bit of a non-discussion point.(For the record, I worked out a few random dates from between 1970 to 1995 and actually City have a higher %, but shhh, don't let that spoil your stats)

Obviously both sides had inflated attendance figures when they started getting more success and obviously it grew as stadiums increased in capacity.

What you need to look at is the figures pre-success like 1970 to lets say 1995 when both sides were ****e, neither having any lasting success and neither having any sizable boost in income because that shows you which club has been the better support throughout all of its history - the hard times as well as the good times. Quick eyeballing suggests that actually City might have had a bigger average attendance looking at it that way before all of the success and money which was my initial point. Thanks.

Not really sure you understand how stats work, or you were more drunk than you thought.

 

Wasn't it Disraeli who said "There are three kinds of lies:- lies, damn lies, and statistics"

 

He may well be fit, but I doubt he will be playing at Goodison. Looks nasty with the pictures

 

give other he's got a couple of months FFS

 

Unless he is going to get good then he won’t.

 

And when did that stop him playing in your back line before?

tbh Williams is ****, no clue why you even bought him in the first place.Get shot as soon as the injury recovers.

 

Hes decent enough as a stand and kick/head it away type defender. Similar to a lot of defenders at lower clubs. It’s when they then try to do any more or are asked to defend differently, not under constant pressure etc that they struggle.

Problem is that was 3/4 years ago and not going to get any better now.

 

Big Sam froze him out, he knows his time with Everton is done.