Just to add... I read on Social Media (so take it as you may) the reason for delaying the announcement of Bielsa is that we are awaiting his work permit.
Not true,another TC made up story.Only during half a season at Lille where he got 20 pts in 19 games.The season he managed before that was at Marseille where he got 70 points in 41 games
Jammy I think one of the problems we have on this board is that there arent that many of us. Almost everyone on here posts sensible stuff and worth reading and commenting on. You could actually say that there are no fanatics, nutters, or shall we say not very nice people. On the subject of Bielsa it seems the majority (who have posted over the last few hours) are not fans. I guess that if all the members of this board commented it may be a 50/50 split which is good. Most other Leeds forums are massivley for the club doing this but many of those boards are a bit volatile too. Sheep. One final point from me, it makes no difference if you have the best coach in the world because if the players arent good enough he will not make it. Lets see who comes in before we decide what the season holds for us.
For me, the Championship is the hardest division to get out of, you take Warnock and his promotion record as an example of needing a certain style of play and a manager spotting that certain just okay type of player who would make a difference in your current team. Stick Warnock in any top 10 PL team and he wouldn’t last, why do managers like Warnock not last? Bamba won’t survive in the PL next season yet he made all the difference for Cardiff. Warnock and other top Championship managers could look at 100 players and say yes great for the Championship if played in this (insert formation) setup or no, not good enough. It isn’t so much about improving a player at this level, more about recognising what a player already has and utilising that in your team. Realistically if this Argentinian guy comes in and compares this squad to any he has managed before he is probably going to think he needs 11 new players because he will be clueless to the demands and ability of Championship football. If we were newly promoted and had £100m to spend I’d be excited by him but for this level and setup of a DOF bringing in the players it fails to tickle my taste buds.
You just triggered a wee thought in my head with this comment. I'm prolly putting 2&2 together & coming up with a million, but I wonder if the 49ers are the ones that have requested this manager? I remember a tweet that stated that the yanks practically wanted us to get rid of the whole team. Now not being football types, I can't imagine them being able to accurately assess our squad. But if their first choice manager made the assessment for them ......... Just sayin'. Another thought. If this guy is so good & has been available since last year, why have we waited until now to sniff him out? Yanks influence? Just sayin' (again).
In a nutshell we need a manager with championship experience and experience of winning promotion from it. Last thing we need is another foreigner who has likely never even seen a championship match. Would mourinho know how to go about getting a team promoted from this division? I doubt it. McCarthy knows how and Ranieri knows plenty about English football. So why are they not being talked about
Had a wee chuckle to myself reading the speculation on FB. More than a few are saying that the deal is signed, but we're just waiting on a work permit being issued, so it'll be all tied up in 48 hours. 48 hours? Who is available on a weekend to issue a work permit? I always thought Civil Servants were 9-5 M-F. Weekends? I think not!
How much clutter have you got? I made her tip / sell / freecycle all ours... the only things that came from the old house was two sofas, a tele, lawnmower, 6 suitcases of clothes and the dog. Btw you should have asked I would have happily given you a hand...
I guess you mean my input. Having invested belief in every appointment over the last fifteen years I now want the best but won’t be looking for false positives. By preference I would prefer a solid but successful English manager and no dof. At the moment all we have is speculation and the club are speaking to 4 candidates so no point getting too carried away on anyone just yet. Again I would have preferred a seemless change with new appointment made otherwise Heck should have been shown the door after qpr. It smacks of being a bit rudderless at the very top. Time will tell and one day things will click even if it’s by fluke.
There seems to be quite a lot of sense being spoken/written at the moment, possibly some fans are learning through past experience, we live in hope that Radz will have learnt as well, but I have my doubts Orta is still here so not looking good.
Morning WJ. There’s plenty of speculation that this is the start of a full buyout by the Americans but Radz wants another chance at getting us promoted. Not saying you’re wrong but how much influence can you have if you’re only a 10% shareholder in the club?
Morning all. On a more positive note if we do appoint a coach who does not speak English the actor Brian Blessed claims that you can communicate by sign language and SHOUTING.
Good morning all. The reason i am actually excited about the possible Marcelo Bielsa appointment is (A) he's totally different to any manager we would have had before,could be like a breath of fresh air (B) Radz to me is showing intent (C) his style of play (would be great to see an attacking Leeds side) haven't had one Since grayson's days (D) even if we lose it would probably be a good game (no more of those sh** half hearted performances we had last season) And possibly most of all (E) just think of the new possibility of some actual first rate loanies from Pep & pochetino also would probably have a great shout of buying players from these clubs,(first rate loans from these clubs would more than likely in themselves get us to the PL) So yes i am happy,of course though it could all go pear shaped as some suggest,but i am more than happy to see what happens, than carrying on like we were.
First loan I’d go for regardless of who the manager is would be Phil Foden at Man City if we could get him.
Reports are coming in from Argentina as WJ says, the deal is done and waiting on a work permit, but the work permit comes automatically as long as the EFL agree the manager is qualified? So we may get that this weekend. Apparently the Bielsa meetings have been happening for weeks. I hear Ristac who has been consistent in his hate of the DoF role, yet most counties use it with success. Orta is only as good as his budget as we've seen in the academy which is now flying and I was the one questioning why we had all these CBs and strikers trying to get game time. Orta has found some gems but at Leeds the first team have struggled to get real quality. That may change now he seems to have been given more cash. I was also one who said we needed a top class experienced manager who had won promotion, but the likes of Swansea, Southampton, Watford, Fulham, Wolves went up with overseas managers in their first season in the Championship and all played stunning football. So it can work with a great coach and a few quid and using the loan system. So for me if the overseas coach is a great coach I will not bother begging the club for Big Mick or Sam. I would really appreciate the club coming out and saying that they have a penalty clause in the new coaches contract that says he will owe the club £2m if he decides to leave, but the club will do the same for the coach and pay him his contract plus £2m if they decide to get rid. We now need some stability and a plan to build for the next 5 years
Snapshot about our potential new manager Bielsa. Seems his style may be a fit in the Championship. We've seen Wolves and Fulham go up playing good football, we also know we need some up and at em steel. This guy employs both. Marcelo Bielsa may not be a household name among casual football fans, but the Argentinian coach, nicknamed El Loco for his idiosyncratic and unorthodox methods, has inspired a degree of fanaticism among a legion of the game’s idealists. Hailing from an academic background – the majority of his immediate family were either lawyers or politicians – Bielsa sought to apply his intellect to seek alternative solutions to football’s age-old tactical quandaries. “I am a student of football,” he once said. “I watch videos, read, analyse, but beneath all my technical talk the great principle is not to concede too much space.” The up-start coach got his big break in 1990, when appointed manager of Newell’s after being promoted from his position as coach of the youth team. “Tactically it was a radical change,” midfielder Juan Manuel Llop said of the new manager’s approach. “He altered the fitness preparation enormously, he worked set-pieces very thoroughly and paid close attention to all the details. “The style was very practical. It was a very aggressive style, looking for every man to win his personal duel … along with controlling possession and always looking to go forward and attack.” As self-confessed subscriber to the paradoxical philosophies of legendary Argentinian coaches César Luis Menotti and Carlos Bilardo, Bielsa built his blueprint by blending aspects of the two men’s styles. He took Menotti’s desire for aesthetically pleasing play and added a dash of Bilardo’s rigid organisation. The style of Bielsa’s Newell’s was thrilling to watch. He demanded unwavering commitment from his players and set up his side with the instruction to harry their opponents into submission; they would press high and press hard. Source: http://outsideoftheboot.com/2016/11/17/marcelo-bielsa-exploring-el-loco/
