The Big Opportunity!

How about we do this article at Christmas?

Far too early in the season to be judging everybody's teams and where they will finish.

 

Given up on the spelling?

 

After just 2 or 3 games, that is an absolutely cretinous statement to make.

 

Dream on, pal

 

Well seeing as the bookies have spuds at 150/1 to win the title I am not so sure.

 

Liverpool above Chelsea? How high are you lot? Even though it's been a slow start, man for man we outclass every player except for Suarez, who is your only player that would start for us, and possibly Mierieles. (However you spell his name). Early days, but I can only see a solid points gap between Chelsea and Liverpool, who will finish 3rd and 4th respectively.

 

2 or 3 games into the season is far too early to be judging anything concrete. I'll be worried if we don't put in a big performance away at Wolves and take points from the Liverpool game. The sooner we sort out the Modric issue the better, part of me wants to milk Chelsea for as much as possible but the other half of me thinks that once the window closes and he realises that he really won't be going anywhere then he has the international break period to sort his head out. If he comes back still "not right" then just drop him and move on. He has been undroppable in the past but no player should be. The trouble is that if we do sell Modric then the likelihood is that it will be on deadline day and that means that if we try and bring in the likes of Damiao or another new striker/midfielder etc. then clubs will know that we have money and will charge us top dollar. The other worry is that we are running out of time, but regardless of whether Modric goes or not I wouldn;t put it past Harry to bring in a couple more players. We need to get rid of some deadwood from our squad as well but thats another story.

Liverpool are looking by far and away the best of the 'chasing pack' so far, I've said all along that I don't think you'll get third but at the moment you look strong.

 

He's a tit, take no notice of him! He was laughing at me before for posting "yours", he was convinced it was "your's" and that "yours" was incorrect

Poor Denzil.

 

Its not a deluded statement.
Spurs have been found out. They have strikers that don't score goals, a calamity keeper and one decent centre-back( Dawson) plus a dozen relatively average players. Arsenal at the moment are lucky to field 11 players, and they have a manager who has money to spend but won't spend it, and when he does spend it he gets it all wrong. He needs centre backs and midfielders and he's signed a 17 year old for £15 million and a French second division striker, plus another player for £11 million that has no premiership experience whatseover.
Liverpool have now shot past both Arsenal and Spurs, they've left both behind. Look what happens when you stand still, you do get left behind. Us Liverpool fans have experienced it so we know what we're talking about.

 

Y'know I agree you have a better squad- although I think Suarez, Gerrard, Meireles, and Reina would ALL get frequent games at Chelsea. I also agree you are more likely to finish above us.

HOWEVER, all that said, I don't think it is a pipe-dream to think we could finish above you. Kenny is more experienced in the Premier league- your manager will take a little while to adapt (we don't truly know how good he will be yet- too early to judge).

Certainly at the moment we're in better form and seem to be more spirited better morale...

Now- all that said this can all change... but as things stand- at the moment I think we really are better. I don't think we will be all season long... I don't think we'll beat you to third... but I think it is realisitic to HOPE for it.

 

Well as a team Liverpool, without Suarez, were better than Chelsea at Stamford Bridge last season.

 

Disagree. Friedel is solid, and was not helped yesterday by our defence which was, admittedly, shocking. King (yes, when fit) is a great centre back, Gallas will be good for us again when he gets his fitness back. Yesterday we played a system which didn't suit our players and it showed. Kranjcar and Modric in the middle against a midfield like City's was always going to be suicide, and our wingers both had terrible off days. None of our strikers - Adebayor excepted but he obviously couldn't play - play well up front on their own. Dawson looks twice the player with an experienced partner (ie: King or Gallas). If we had picked the right players I'm not saying we would have won, but it certainly wouldn't have been 5-1.

There's more than enough of our season left to catch you up, we just need not to have another injury hit year and to play the right players in the right situations. Who can say what the year holds?

 

Sorry, there just seems to be a lot of excuses in there. Injuries are a part of football. Liverpool have done quite well considering they have to intregrate 4 new players into the side and are missing their captain and their first choice right back. Again this isn't an excuse, excuses are pointless.
The fact is and I've pointed this out already, Liverpool are light-years ahead of Spurs, and no excuses will change that fact.

 

We have been second best in both our games so far - we were wasteful for the first hour against United then collapsed and were downright poor against City. We were also missing our captain like you (King is still club captain) and had an extremely lightweight midfield. These are some of the reasons why we lost the game and I'm not denying that they may be excuses. I didn't say we would have won if we had every player fit did I? As you mention injuries are part and parcel of football but I don't doubt that Liverpool would have struggled against that City team if you were missing your two best centre backs (King and Gallas) and a player as important to us as Sandro (our only real holding midfielder). I have never said that we didn't play badly or deserve to lose. I'm merely trying to tell you why we lost, and why it is stupid to dismiss Spurs this year in the chase for 4th after two games. There is a fine line between mindless excuses and someone telling somebody else why something happened, and this is me doing the latter.

The earliest time to judge whether Liverpool are indeed "light years ahead" of Spurs will be Christmas but even then thats is not fully conclusive. My point is that anything could happen form-wise or injury-wise the the coming months.

 

Superpav.
If you are missing a holding midfielder in Sandro, why on earth is Redknapp selling Palacios who is a good defensive midfielder? Sorry I've no sympathy for a club that has a manager obviously so clueless and stupid. As for centre-backs why did Redknapp let Woodgate go? Why did he he not sign a centre back when he let Woodgate go? He could have signed Matt Upson from West Ham on a free as a stop-gap.
Sorry there is no logic whatsoever to these statements.

 

Nobody's saying we are perfect and going to win the league just that we already ready have an advantage over two of rivals for 4th. This is not just based on league table but also on actually watching the performance of the teams, this is something that fans who actually watch game do, sort of explains why you can't.

 

Woodgate had been injured for ages, and it's sods law that he should string some good performances together for another team the moment he leaves. Last year he played half a game for us against AC Milan and picked up another injury. We didn't sign another centre back because even having loaned out Caulker and Khumalo we still have 5 centre backs, all with reasonable Premier League experience. Whether or not the likes of Bassong are good enough is another matter but it's clear that we should have adequate resources at centre back without Woodgate. There's a reason why his deal with Stoke was pay-as-you-play. As for Palacios, I believe he was/is still slightly injured, hence why he didn't play. Besides, his form for us lately has been substandard compared to that immediately following his move to us. He is being sold precisely for that reason, and because we look likely to get Parker very soon, who is a better player.

 

Lordy, this is such a gooner thread, this is the obnoxious twaddle they are famed for. "Arsenal are the best in the world...discuss" And not only did you write it, you linked it to the London teams. If it's a troll, then all well and good, but if you are serious, you need to get your head out of your botty and not get so carried away. We still lack a killer instinct in front of goal, it should have been 8 to Liverpool against Bolton, but we only got three, OK the ref was at fault a couple of times, but we should have gotten a fair few more if we were as good as we could be. Henderson is ropey in possession, Carroll just isn't doing it yet, and we are still weak at the back. So I'll hold judgement until May thanks.

 

"Liverpool are light-years ahead of Spurs"

That is a ludicrous claim after two games! Funny how everything that appears to be the case after two games is almost NEVER the case. For reasons I haven't got time to go into here, short term changes always seem to impact long term views and they appear to change every game. It's actually a complete contradiction of what a long term opinion should be! My long term opinion, based on things like our squad is equal or even stronger than last year (you may recall us humbling Liverpool at their place), is that we will probably finish ahead of Liverpool, although I suspect Spurs, Liverpool and Arsenal will be fighting it out for the 4th CL spot... I'd like to hear candidates for other teams that might be the 4th, 5th and 6th best in the PL. My opinion is based on the belief that our squad will sort itself out over the course of the season. Being "sure" about anything after such a short time is ridiculous - if you went back to look at opinions after every game in the past you will see how little actually matches up with the final (end of season) result.

 

That's because the majority of Spurs fans are intelligent, and not totally deluded, like the fans of certain other clubs. Therefore, we tend not to waste our money betting on something we know ain't gonna happen! Again, unlike the fans of certain other clubs.