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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    In the transfer market?

    We used to just do the deals.

    Now it takes weeks or months to sign players when all other clubs are able to
    move quicker.

    What IS the real issue here?
     
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  2. daztoc

    daztoc Well-Known Member

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    If and it's a BIG IF, but if Ashley is as 'hands off' as he claims then it's down to Penfold and more importantly Justin Barnes.

    Penfold is completely clueless and needs his hand held.................. the problem is that Barnes is holding it.
     
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  3. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    It ultimately falls to Ashley then surely to have the right man in charge.
     
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  4. Lord Jonjomort

    Lord Jonjomort Well-Known Member

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    Total uncertainty. Ashley doesn't appear to want the club, so operating budgets are tight. Rafa's only got a year to go, so is the club going to give him the chequebook? Doubtful.

    Main issue is a complete lack of senior execs, so Lee spends as much time ordering in the persil, teabags and jaffa cakes as he does on financial reports (hence the MASSIVE delay) and - ultimately - transfers.

    We're running - at a senior management level - with as many people as Burton Albion and Accrington Stanley. As in, one person. Mike's got no interest in paying for more, Lee's got no interest in hiring superiors.
     
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  5. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

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    Ashley.

    :p To Pouchy.
     
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  6. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    most deals are done prior to teams going back to training
    I mean who wants to pay wages to a player whilst he's on holiday
    the money saved on wages from that one player alone could pay for all the stadium staff, maintenance staff and groundsmen
    throughout the summer
     
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  7. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Quite simply, it’s a myth. We have got our business done like most other clubs over the last 3 years. Some of this nonsense seems to have come from last summer when Cabellero and Abraham stalled because they wanted to wait for better offers. They got them (or thought they did).

    It’s the same type of myth we don’t match up spending wise on wages, fees and transfer fees. We do.

    It’s the same type of myth ‘fans’ create that we are not spending our money. Then the accounts arrive and make those people look incredibly stupid.

    Very little business being done so far unless I’m unaware of some sneaky signings. Perhaps this will help with a dose of reality https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talk...eted-confirmed-summer-2018-premier-league?amp

    Our manager hasn’t even decided if he wants to stay yet. It’s down to Rafa as we can’t sign anyone until we know what he’s doing.
     
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    I’m pretty sure Rafa has told Penfold by now what is required for Rafa to sign. Would expect it’s up to Ashley now as we won’t sign anyone until he decides how much he wants to keep Rafa.
     
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  9. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I’m pretty sure Penfold has told Rafa what is on offer. It’s a two way street.
     
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  10. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    Didn’t lejeune have a a buyout clause... and didn’t we try to offer less.... and it took 8 weeks?
     
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  11. Albert's Chip Shop

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    please log in to view this image
     
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  12. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    He signed on the 4th July 2017. The window opened on the 9th June 2017. He signed and was there for pre season. I really can't see a problem to be honest.
     
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  13. Rum & Black for 2

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    Well I’m not holding my breathe on that one. Strange you didn’t mention the two way street in your earlier post. :)
     
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  14. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    A quick look on the Dubravka thread would say I did. Keep up at the back.
     
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  15. Rum & Black for 2

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    But didn’t on this one.

    #movinggoalposts
     
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  16. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Not required. Only a semi ******ed imbecile with an agenda would think its a one way street. As with all contracts between two parties, it takes one to offer and one to accept, with room for negotiation.

    #basics
     
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  17. General Lee Speaking

    General Lee Speaking Well-Known Member

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    You want to get yourself on the Chronicle web site mate. You can argue with all the anti-Ashley twats and conspiracy theorists till your heart's content. It's phenomenal on there.

    I saw a quote by Shearer too saying Ashley hadn't given Rafa every penny last season, so jump on his Twitter account and straighten him out.
     
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  18. Rum & Black for 2

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    Breaking news.

    What Pouchy said to Ashley to straighten him out and to get the Dubravka deal over the line.
     
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  19. the_gateshead_ninja

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    If he doesn't understand by now that the deciding factor between the success or decline of NUFC is Benitez... he's even worse than I thought
     
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