To be fair. Dudek had a good final, but he really wasn't good enough. He was prone to howlers all season long and most of us had wanted him out.
Frustrating but he could make the difference. There’s difference in taking risks and it not coming off vs making fundamental errors. We need our attackers and midfielders to take risks in order to progress up the pitch.
Garcia was a luxury player. He added nothing to the grit of the team or the shape. Yet, he could have moments of brilliance. Totally different player to Coutinho obviously, but he was a bit like him in that both players had spells where they would be anonymous and then suddenly... Bang... Have moment of magic.
I understand the argument of having hard working players in the team but as we saw with Lallana, you still need quality on the ball and not someone who can just run around.
Lallana hasn't been fit all season but is put on the bench. Criminal. Woodburn would at least have been able to run around a bit! Has the bottle as he showed scoring for Wales in World Cup Qualifier.
I don’t see how a fully fit Lallana would have done anything being in the front 3. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but we would have been better putting Moreno up there or bringing on Can and moving Gini into that role.
Michael Ballack made a similar one, when he said a German taking a penalty is thinking of glory, while an Englishman is worrying about tomorrow's headlines. Anyway, ask all the experts to name the top keepers of the last ten years and five gets you a ton the list won't include Roman Weidenfeller. He was a backup at Kaiserslautern to the other household name that tripped off pundits' lips, Georg Koch. He moved to Dortmund on a free transfer to get games. Surely they should've spent big on a top name if they expected to win anything. Just ask Paul Scholes, who can't even spell Weidenfeller. Weidenfeller has two Bundesliga titles, one with a cup double. He has two other cup titles and was backup to Neuer in Germany's World Cup winning squad. He also has a CL runner's up medal. All of that under Klopp. So one can't say Klopp doesn't know a good keeper, even when they're not the most popular choice in Football Manager 2018. The season before we got him, Karius was voted the second-best goalkeeper in the Bundesliga in a players' poll, right behind Neuer. Fourfourtwo ranked this season's top ten keepers. Some might agree that Jan Oblak was #1 in the world this season. How Atletico could drop out of the Champions League in the group stages for the first time in eight years remains a mystery but somebody somewhere must've made a mistake. None of the rest of the top ten were in the CL final. TL;DR: nobody knows anything.
I don't know. I can't really call this one as Klopp has clear favourites, Karius being one of them. I don't think Can should have been anywhere near the CL final let alone get on but there you go.
I agree about Can, he’s done to you lot what Barkley was intent on doing to us, until we shunted him in January. Quite how he’s escaped much flack for it I’ve no idea, and I’m equally stunned that he somehow got his arse on the bench in a major final on Saturday.
Think Can has had a lot of flack all season. Its been known for the best part of the season that he will be off to Juventus. Fans and the media alike have questioned his commitment, but Klopp said he is focused on helping Liverpool. Personally I don't buy it, when the end is in sight, then you are thinking about that
I think it was Klopp giving him one last hurrah. I've never been fussed about Can and tbf he hasn't agitated for a move but he's a wanderer who I will be happy to see wander off to Juve.
He’s not taken stick at the game though has he? Also, it’s been a badly kept secret that he’s going to Juve, but he’s not said a word about it, if he’d have come out and been honest about it if he signed a precontract agreement with Juve in January, then at least he’d have been transparent. But he’s seemingly kept your club and Klopp in the dark. All of that is his choice like, but I’d have wanted him to be in the stiffs if he was one of ours.
excellent quote there. in the end... irrespective of intent you must do the basics and imo there was a thing in karius' mind which was very basic. I think we are biased towards giving ball central and to cbs and train as such and he rejected a faster better pass to Robertson as we prob say it's too easy close down. in other words he was on autopilot and not seeing the danger.
He's been out injured for over 2 months. Klopp and the club have known for a long time that he was off to pastures new hence not re-signing. As for getting stick at the game - that's your lot's style, not ours
