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Is Tommy Robinson racist ?

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  1. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    Surely any case the media report on the defence can claim that?
     
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  2. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I guess so.

    Profile of case matters. In the past people were found guilty, sentenced, then retried and sentence over turned. The common denominator was media influence

    In cases like yaxley the breach of the peace is what the charge is for any media disobeying a courts decision to keep things out of jury by media.

    Of course he was already serving a suspended sentence for doing this in another case, hence the quick sentencing

    The discussion about whether courts should fo this is on going, but currently he broke the law
     
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  3. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    No it's not.
     
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  4. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Utter twaddle. The charge for disobeying a court ruling is contempt. He wasn't arrested for contempt he was arrested on a trumped up breach charge. If he was arraigned under the breach charge he would have been asked how he wanted to plead to it when appearing in court. It's highly unlikely he pled guilty so he should have been set a trial date. The judge could have remanded him in custody until that date due to his previous sentencing but they couldn't just find him guilty in the spot and sentence him.

    This isn't some backward Mussie country with kangaroo courts mister. This is Great Britain, the cradle of justice.

    At least it didn't used to be.
     
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    He was convicted under the Criminal Justice Act 1925, which prohibits taking or publishing pictures of people involved in trials, rather than under the Contempt of Court Act, which would be more likely to cover the publication of the videos.

    Always been the law, why should it be different for yaxley?
     
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  6. thefanwithnoname

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    Yes it was. Judge in both cases had set a media blackout.

    Yaxley broke the first, got suspended sentence. Broke the second and straight inside

    You could say he broke the same law twice
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

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    Sentencing him at Canterbury crown court, the judge Heather Norton told Robinson: “This is not about freedom of speech or freedom of the press. This is not about legitimate journalism or political correctness. It’s about justice and ensuring that a trial can be carried out justly and fairly, and ensuring that a jury is not in any way inhibited in carrying out its important function.”
     
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  8. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Let's all rejoice that Tommy has been locked up and forget the minor issue of 27 nonces up at court
     
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  9. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    So the breach of the peace charge was a made up charge just to get him in a police van. That sounds rather illegal to me.

    Did he plead.guilty to the what ever charge was ultimately up in court for?
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

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    Breach of the peace is not in itself a criminal offence.

    It's a police power used where mischief is or can take place by the actions of a person.

    His sentencing will not be for breach of the peace but because he was previously convicted of ILLEGALLY videoing suspects in a trial

    Guess what he did now?
     
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  11. Strange Nipples ST

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    "We also have confirmation that the defendants of those on trial in Leeds will plea a motion on Monday for a mistrial based on Robinson's reporting. Bravo, Tommy. You might be setting them free."
     
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    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Don't know about England but up here breach of the peace is an offence . Admittedly it's a one size fits all charge that the police like to use when there nothing else to charge someone with.

    Sounds like it's the same in England tbf.
     
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  13. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    And there is the problem with granting this scum anonymity
     
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    Maybe, but there's an argument in civilised society that people are innocent until proven guilty.

    I read that another man was set free this week after being falsely accused of rape. Despite the woman having text messages on her phone saying things like "can't wait till we have sex again" and "that's the best sex I've ever had" the police didn't think it was worthy as evidence and the poor bloke had his name printed in the press, was sent to prison and lost his business.

    I'm not saying that the men in the child abuse case are innocent. But there's always that possibility. I personally believe that all people accused of horrendous crimes like rape and child abuse should remain anonymous until a verdict has been reached. These are such serious crimes that even being accused of them (and being innocent) can have a catastrophic effect on your life.
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

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    Tommy wasn't interested in the victims, only the accused, and only because they are of a brownish hue.
     
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    Just to clarify I think Tommy Robinson is a dick but nonces get away far to easy in the UK and way to much protection
     
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  17. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Aye of course mud sticks and in all honesty everybody accused of these types of crimes should be granted anonymity . But it isn't the norm.

    So the question has to be asked, why do this lot deserve it? What is it in this case that the judiciary have deemed exceptional that the accused's identity should be protected when people who are household names haven't been granted the same protection?

    Yes the man is a cùnt. There's no doubt that. He doesn't deserve what he is currently suffering though.
     
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  18. thefanwithnoname

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    Not like he didn't know


    https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/coc-yaxley-lennon-20170522.pdf

    "In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as "Muslim *****philes, Muslim rapists" and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside. Do you understand? Thank you very much."
     
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  20. DUNCAN DONUTS

    DUNCAN DONUTS SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR

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    If his intention was to expose those that wish to cover up these cases for #diversity reasons he has succeeded .

    The apologists have scuttled out too splendid <magic><hug>
     
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