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Games - Won 0, Lost: 2, Goals - Scored: 1, Conceded: 7

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spudulike, Aug 28, 2011.

  1. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    We've got problems all over the pitch, regardless of injuries or not.

    Kaboul - Falls asleep and ball watches
    Dawson - Not as good as many would suggest
    Van Der Vaart - Injury prone and off-form. Becoming a luxury/liability we can't afford
    Bale - Now a marked man and ineffective on present form
    Lennon - One trick pony. Can't cross or just look up once in a while
    Crouch - Pointless even playing him
    Defoe - Just shoots on sight. No finesse
    Modric - Clearly wants out and for the first time, I think he should now go.

    What worries me the most is the lack of desire, intensity or belief we had out there. All the talking up of our opponents by Redknapp has clearly filtered down to the players as Man City literally had the run of the park.

    With 7 goals shipped and only 1 scored, it's going to be a hard sell trying to convince any potential new signings that Spurs will be up there challenging.

    Modric gets booed off. Worrying times.
     
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  2. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, make that 8 conceded!
     
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  3. Roo

    Roo Well-Known Member

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    i agree with elements of this flaspur. just think we all need to calm down a little bit. I'm as frustrated as the next fan, dont get me wrong.

    I thought Kaboul was brilliant against united and has looked good when he's played, for some time now.
    Dawson. - dunno what's going on with him. he's not looked himself, even since the Bilbao game IMO.
    VDV - frustrated, but you can see he cares. played well till he got injured.
    Bale - i dunno what to say? this is a prime example of what someone else posted in another thread about him being "missing" for parts of the season. didnt even know he was on the pitch till the 2nd half on 63 mins when he took a throw. not good enough today.
    lennon - was playing against clichy. - one of the few prem defenders who can pretty much match him for pace and always gives him a tough game.
    Crouch - when ever he plays we adopt our "route 1" football, which is highly frustrating.
    Defoe - couldnt disagree more. thought he gave us real spark when he came on.
    Modric - totally agree.

    the lack of desire and intensity comes from a confidence issue behind the scenes. the players have the daily bullshit of the modric scenario affecting them and they have seen little/no new players come in. what does this say to them about our intent? no wonder we're like this.
     
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  4. Billy The Spur

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    I though Rat Face was one of our better players today and didnt show too much lack of interest and I think once the window shuts he will get back to his best form, at least by the time we play again the window will be closed and all speculation ended.
     
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  5. Spudulike

    Spudulike Well-Known Member

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    He may have had a decent game but I got the feeling there are some unhappy folks in the ranks. Lennon sulked coming off, Van Der Vaart has a hissy fit and kicked the ball down the tunnel. Modric avoided eye contact with Harry.

    We need to get this mess sorted out fast and get our season off the starting blocks.
     
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  6. NSIS

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    We have no cover for our defence from midfield, leaving them overun. Our "strikeforce" couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo. So, it doesn't take a footballing tactical Sherlock Holmes to work out what's going wrong.
     
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  7. OnlyOneDB

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    Christ- get a grip guys, were we watching the same game?
     
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  8. MrsHotspur

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    Is it because we don't have a natural leader on the pitch? Our heads drop and there doesn't seem to be anybody on the field able to get the lads going again, to fight our way back into the game, saying that I have no idea who we could get in to do the job, just airing my thoughts..... #COYS!
     
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  9. OnlyOneDB

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    We need King back - or even Gallas
     
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  10. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Badly.

    I've always said Dawson is only good enough to be back up at best for a top 6 side.

    To me Dawson is a less version of Jamie Carragher and Carragher is a less version of John Terry who I don't rate either <laugh>
     
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  11. OnlyOneDB

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    If only, Carragher scores more goal for us!

    Daws is a good player, but not a leader - he needs a voice beside him.
     
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  12. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    That's why I said less version of him <laugh>

    I just don't rate him, too slow and poor judgement.
     
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  13. OnlyOneDB

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    Alongside a King or Gallas, he's a bloody good defender.

    just like Terry was alongside a Carvahlo, or Carra was alongside Hyppia.

    If Coates is what he is said, its a worry
     
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  14. NSIS

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    I agree about Dawson. However, I maintain that our main problem has been the lack of cover in front of our defence. If ever you needed a reminder of just how badly we have missed Sandro, then the last two games have provided ample evidence.
     
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  15. NJSpurs

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    I think Redknapp's football ideas are outdated. I think when the team needs some tactical leadership Redknapp hasn't got it. This is early days but the gulf is very obvious and I don't think Adebeyor, Parker and a couple of youngsters represent a serious effort to boost the team. The problems that appeared last year haven't gone away and we are leaving until the last three days of the transfer window to change that.
    We should have sold Bassong, Crouch, Jenas, Palacious, Hutton, and I would also include Lennon and Huddlestone during the summer. At least then we might have had time to buy and bed in some new players. However still have to figure out if Redknapp is really up for the modern game.
     
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  16. NotSoMightyEastbourneBoro

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    Harry has wasted the greatest opportunity we have had in ages. He is a tactical imbecile who is leaving off a self-made legacy. Spurs are in danger of becoming a Premiership dinosaur. Harry out as he does not have Spurs at heart. Harry only thinks about himself.
     
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  17. The Huddlefro

    The Huddlefro Well-Known Member

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    Agreed about Dawson, he needs a King or Gallas alongside him to steady him but he can't do that for other people (Bassong, Kaboul etc.) alone. He looks twice the player with King alongside him. I think playing Kranjcar and an unsettled Modric together in central midfield was a very poor decision by Harry, we miss a Sandro - or indeed a Parker - badly.

    I never though I'd say this but perhaps we should sell Modric - but part of me still resists this because it means Levy going back on his word (proving all the fans of other teams who have been saying we would sell him all summer right) and also because I have no doubt that he will do well wherever he moves on to. Or we could get approx £40 mill for him and buy quality in January (or now if we sell soon enough). Yes I know a lot of this is knee jerk stuff but that is the nature of the evening after such a disappointing game.

    Anyone know how long VdV is out for?

    PS: I want 4-4-2 back!!! Call me old fashioned........
     
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  18. Travelsick07

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    toon fan in peace. I tuned into your match during our half time break and at the end, just a couple of question about your team selection yesterday. On paper you have a very strong squad. But where has your mettle disappeared to? I saw Palacios is close to, or has actually signed for stoke, where's Huddlestone these days? Do you have so many injuries that Harry fielded 5 lightweight midfielders plus Crouch? Is Gallas injured too?

    I'm puzzled how Harry thought he could contain such a strong city side with no tacklers or defensive minded midfielders in the team. Before the goals started going in I noticed you had good width going, but your players were all standing 20 yard apart. On the other hand our match was totally dull because Fulham and Newcastle both packed the midfield and there was no space. Switching from one match to the other it was quite impressive to see how different space can be used on a pitch. In any case though, playing a mid four of Modric, Niko, Lennon and Bale is suicide, especially against the top teams. The blame has to lie with the manager on that one.

    Also I feel you've got so many good players that Harry has just disgruntled. He seems to give everyone the tough love, some players like Bale or Pav respond well and grow, but others like Bentley, Bent, Keane, Palacios, Kranjcar etc just go into their shell and never seem to get back to form they've previously shown.

    No question Harry's a great manager and knows exactly what he's doing but he's going through a lot of players alright.
     
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  19. NSIS

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    I can't disagree, mate. It was glaringly obvious how much we missed Sandro against Utd, and again yesterday. The only thing is, with Palacios gone, and Sandro injured. there was nobody else to fill that role, yesterday. He should probably have started with Huddlestone instead of Kranjcar.
     
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