Moss was poor all game, and the foul against Redmond in the last 90 seconds wasn't one at all. There was also a clear foul from the resulting corner after McCarthy's save from Baines. Right.
Our chances of staying up went from about 90% to about 50% with that one late goal, very fine margins indeed.
4 minutes was about right. Refs usually allow 30 seconds for each substitution (there were 5 in the game) and 30 seconds for a goal so that makes 3 minutes. Then there was the sending off and various little pauses for players to get treatment and that sort of thing.
If we win on Tuesday, we're 80% safe. Probably 90%, if we can do it by a couple of goals. What is worrying though is that - putting Moss to one side - we've just played well against a very poor Everton side, who had nothing to play for, and couldn't even win that. I cannot see Swansea being as bad as Everton were for that first hour. We're also going to have to do it now without Yoshida and probably without Lemina.
No disagreement. I'm not upset with Hoedt; it's just one of those things. Instinct is always going to be to try to block it, but Hoedt misjudged it and as luck would have it got it wrong in the only way that would have caused us any bother.
I doubt we'd have even needed to reshape. By the time the ball would have returned, and then thrown in, the whistle would probably have gone before any Everton player could play any sort of pass or shot.
2 of the subs were at half time. So 4 subs, so 30 secs for each sub is 2mins. Where did the other 2 come from?
but we need to look at the larger picture that these sort of last minute nerves and and nerves when we have a lead have been consistently occurring in our season - today, B'mouth last week, Chelsea, Arsenal, Watford, even our first fixture with west ham. Hughes needs to address this problem.
No it wasn’t. It arguably wasn’t even a foul. Could see why it was given, though. Good acting job. It looked like a yellow in real time. On replay, it wasn’t close. Second yellow was stupid. Yoshida knew it, too. Still, it happens. Bad decision to challenge there, but not shockingly bad either. Kind of a run of the mill tired legs mistake that just happened to loom large. We were just very unlucky this game with that red, Lemina getting hurt, deflected goal. It doesn’t change things that much, on the bright side. Fate is still in our hands. Need to beat Swansea. Would have been worse if Swansea could just play to a draw, but they really can’t do that.
Yeah, but if he puts it out and they throw it in quickly, score a deflected fluke people would mutter..... 'Should have belted it up field.......' You know it to be true.
I'd suggest that they most certainly can. It would mean that a final day win at home to Stoke would almost certainly keep them up, and to be honest even just a draw for Swansea should be sufficient. If Swansea get a draw against us, all they need to do against Stoke is better what we do against City. That is basically a given. It would be madness for Swansea to risk losing on Tuesday.
i'm going 50-50 Saints to win, any other result means probably we have to get something against Citeh as I can't see Stoke saving us.
True. You still have the sending off, the other yellow cards that were handed out, the goal, the countless times during every half of football that players lie on the floor after being fouled (I can't remember how many received treatment but presumably there were some).