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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by DJBlackandamberarmy(No4), Apr 24, 2018.

  1. Plum

    Plum Well-Known Member

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    If the 2 Italians are convicted of whatever it is they're currently charged with and the victim later dies, can they be charged again with manslaughter or something? Or is that double jeopardy?
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I think they'll probably know what the outcome is by the time the court case comes around in a month and the charges will reflect the crime.
     
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  3. Plum

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    But they've been charged already, appeared in court and remanded in custody. So can the charge be changed in the meantime?

    My daughters a law student, I've asked her. Let's see if I'm wasting my money or not!
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm pretty sure if he dies the charges will be amended.
     
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  5. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    You can be charged with any number of offences.

    It's whether or not you are tried and convicted in a Court of Law that counts.
     
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  6. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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  8. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I don’t think anyone said that. As is nearly always the case the truth will lie somewhere between the two.
     
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  9. Carmine Galante.

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    Interesting that they claim that the local police do nothing to protect away fans and actually attack them instead of protecting them when the home supporters kick off.

    Alternatively the OB just turn a blind eye when the home fans are assaulting the foreign enemy at let the indigenous fans run riot.


    There are some on here who claim time and time again that our OB are over zealous with home supporters and over protect the enemy.

    Someone’s got it wrong, question is ....who?
     
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    Looks a highly reputable source.... With no evidence of this whatsoever, where as evidence of a Roma fan with a hammer and some poor bloke in a coma.

    I thought I would read this thread to see six pages of wishing the bloke better, what it is is people squabbling and bickering over things that don't matter in the slightest.

    All that matters is a poor bloke who went to watch the football could die due to an attack by Roma fans. What happened in the past, and past tragedies, however horrific and terrible they are, doesn't matter. No football fan should go to the football and come away in a Coma no matter who he supports.
     
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  11. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

    DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) Well-Known Member

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    100 % agree, instantly regretted starting the thread after some of the early comments
     
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  12. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Claim being the operative word.
     
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  13. Newland Tiger

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    Even if everything in their accounts is 100% true , and who knows , that is 1 game

    I've actually never heard anybody say the police are overzealous with home fans as opposed to away fans
    except in the case of Humberside police anyway
     
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  14. bum_chinned_crab

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    Why do you instantly dismiss their accounts when you weren’t there?
     
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  15. Barchullona

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    Are you accepting their accounts when you weren't there?
     
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  16. Barchullona

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    After Millwall fans ripped seats and threw them at City fans and tried to charge over the segregation area 22 City fans ended up in court with fines or banning orders. How many Millwall fans were hauled up by Humberside's finest? One, wasn't it?
     
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    As i just said, I doubt any of what we have been told is the entire picture. It is almost certain that trouble was caused and there was misbehaviour from both sides. The key thing is I havent dismissed one side of the account while accepting the other based on nothing more than an anti view of one nationality.
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    That wasn't down to Humberside's finest, they got names and addresses for a load of them, it was the Met's finest that ****ed that one up.
     
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  19. Barchullona

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    So why didn't they arrest any Millwall fans on the day? The Met have more important things to do than chase up things for our police force. Of course Humberside's finest spent months tracking down and getting a City fan banned for setting off a smoke flare at Millwall. Loads of City jailed after Huddersfield game at City,1 Huddersfield. Bristol City fans in limos escorted to the KC and away after causing trouble.They have a long record of only being interested in jailing and banning City fans. There have been arrests and ejections at both rugby clubs, fighting on the pitch, bottles thrown at fans and players, smoke foares set off at a local derby. How many have ended up in court or with banning orders.
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    None of which changes the fact that Humberside's finest did exactly what they should do, they reviewed CCTV inside the ground, got images of those responsible for causing damage and published them so they could be identified, which they all were (thanks to the local rag in east London). The Met were then responsible for making the arrests and couldn't be arsed.
     
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