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Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by chelsea - over 100 years of history, Apr 18, 2018.

  1. Blueman

    Blueman Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> Yeah true. He has a point about Alonso's defending though. Fabregas is no good to play 2 games in a week, but he's still quality. What did you make of Emerson last night?.
     
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  2. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Never ever defended Cahill. He can retire in all honesty.

    Morata, Baka have & are the future.
    Cescy has no future with the club & Alonso is only good for a last year Cescy role.
     
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  3. Chelsea Pensioner

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    Morata and Baka are on their last chance. Unless they both improve out of sight, assuming they are not out of sight come the summer at Juve and Monaco respectively, then they will be confined to history as failures. No one wants that, but it may well happen.
    Fabregas should be moved on as his value to the team diminishes each season with age. Alonso is one of our best players under the system we play, but he will be off to Real or Barca come the summer unfortunately, when a new manager with a different system probably arrives. Unlike you Stan, they rate him.
     
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  4. The Ginger Marks

    The Ginger Marks Ma Mo

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    Well Stan knows more the the footballing greats doesn’t he.
     
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  5. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morata or Baka are this poor thanks to Tony's relentless effort to screw us over. It is just matter of when than if they come good.

    Alonso to Real or Barca?? Seriously ? I will not post or comment in this forum if Alonso is sold up.
     
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  6. The Ginger Marks

    The Ginger Marks Ma Mo

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    Do it now and do us all a favour.
     
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  7. Chelsea Pensioner

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    Both have already made enquiries as have Juve. Morata looked better as one of 2 strikers, but as long as we play 1 up front, he's as useful as a spare navel. Even 1 on 1 he can't score from 5 metres. Baka is a different case, he looks out of confidence, but Conte has done everything to help the kid ,not hinder him. Baka just hasn't adapted to the speed, aggression and lack of time on the ball that he gets in PL. Next season he has to, or off he goes.
     
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  8. The Ginger Marks

    The Ginger Marks Ma Mo

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    In all fairness to Bakayoko he actually played well at Burnley and 100% better than the pitiful efforts from last month. I think Conte saw he was struggling and took him out the equation. He looks to have regained his confidence, this is very astute managing by Conte. But Stan has to have two or three figures of hate every season and best avoided as the brain cell in his head seems to be spasticated.
     
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  9. Super_Chelsea_Blue_Boys

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    From what I’ve seen of Baka so far, someone is laughing all the way to the bank. He has no touch, no spatial awareness, no control, can’t pass and couldn’t hit a cows Rse with a banjo.

    He needs to improve massively. Essien he is not!
     
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  10. BobbyD

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    sorry boys,

    theres a third here who agrees with stan.

    Me and blue see alonso weak defensively. He's a solid enough player, someone to give you between 6 - 7.5/10 every match (unless he's wanging in free kicks) but i'd prefer a left back who was more solid defending 1 on 1 and able to take his man on. On that basis we need to give Emerson a go because when we're up against teams who dominate our midfield/press us high the wingbacks and centre mids are letting us down and alonso is part of this problem
     
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  11. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    So which games specifically and how was their performance to blame for the goals being scored against you?
     
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  12. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Come on mate.. how was Rambo when he came in first?
    Baka definitely showing glimpse of Rambo or even Essien. He needs to time to mature and be our core.


    Tony is in Judas mode and he will go out of his way to sabotage young kids. No respect <doh>

    Just see Mo.. scored 2 first half goals against Rome in CL SF. People wonder why I call Judas as Judas <doh>
     
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  13. The Ginger Marks

    The Ginger Marks Ma Mo

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    Judas is a name given to betrayal, ie a player or manager wanting away. Being sacked is not a Judas. Mo was sold because at the time he was not considered good enough as was the case with DeBruyne.

    This is a case of misjudgement and your continued usage of the word Judas just highlights your ****ing stupidity.
     
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  14. Chelsea Pensioner

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    It's really weird, always looking for someone to crucify and never to praise. Maybe Stan is Pontius Pilate reincarnate, hence his fixation with Judas and Biblical characters. Maybe Marina is really Mary Magdalen and Conte Doubting Thomas ??
    No one knows what actually happened with Mourinho, but he seemed to lose some players and he was definately shafted by RA as Conte is being shafted.
    Calling him Judas is ridiculous, I'd call him Lucky myself.
    If Conte goes with 10 mill in his pocket ,I'd call him Bloody Lucky.
    Both will be managing bigger and better run Clubs than ours, and getting paid a fortune for doing so.
    This summer is potentially make or break for the next decade for Chelsea. RA better get used to the taste of humble pie and get in some football people, or his wallet will be flapping empty as he works out how it all went so wrong. Stan can't seem to see that our success or otherwise is nothing to do with Alonso or Fabregas, Jose or Conte, but all to do with the Board and it's lack of football sense.
     
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  15. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Comeon ...
    I am commanding young kids like Baka, Zappa & even Moses.
    For crying out loud, asking for Ross, Danny to be given a run - so that next Matic or Mo can be identified.

    I am asking people to cut them some slack...
    They are the future and back bone of our team.

    I am negative?????

    I am criticizing the awful players in Cahill, Alonso & Cescy. Who have no future and nothing to offer to our team.
    Tony cannot blame the tools he has when he is outdone by Spuds & Pool.
     
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  16. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    You are utterly clueless if you think the players you mentioned are useless. These are players who've done a hell of a lot more for Chelsea than Bakayoko and Zappacosta. Your lack of loyalty to great club servants is highly ironic given the way you throw the term Judas around.

    And what does commanding young kids even mean? They are 23, 25 and 27 respectively as well. Hardly kids.

    More utter drivel from the resident clown. :headbang:
     
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  17. StanDMan

    StanDMan Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    JT & Lamps has done more than Cescy & Cahill.
    can we bring them back and show our loyalty ? <doh> & FFS !!
     
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  18. chelsea - over 100 years of history

    chelsea - over 100 years of history Well-Known Member

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    If we did, you'd be calling them Judas after a couple of months. <doh>
     
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  19. The Ginger Marks

    The Ginger Marks Ma Mo

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    What a twat he is
     
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  20. Chelsea Pensioner

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    Commanding young kids???
    Are you the JC is this biblical odyssey??
    Baka, Zappa and Moses have had a bagful of chances and none are being treated poorly apart from Baka, and even he is seen by most posters to be worth a try next season. Problem with Ross is he can't run so can't be given a run, and Danny is running to West Ham where he might well get a run cause every time he plays for us he runs into problems.
    Cahill is a past International, now nearing the end of a fine career and struggling to keep his place, no shame in that. Alonso is in the Team of the year and sought after by Juve, Real and now Barcelona, whose judgement of a players qualities I rate higher than yours or mine.
    Fabregas, like Cahill has a trophy full of silverware from several absolutely top rated Clubs and though past his best, still commands respect from the football world. I do agree it's best he moves on, but to deride him as useless is extremely foolish.
    "Tony" absolutely can blame the tools he has because he is constantly having to insert square pegs provided by RA and Marina, into round holes which were made for different players. Spuds and Pool were far smarter ,far more patient and clever and waited until the right round pegs for their teams became available.
     
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