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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    after pondering the Theresa May issue for a couple of days, reading stuff from the left and the right of politics (and in-between) I have personally concluded that she's pretty crap! Not as crap as Trump or Putin but working on it. U-turning so many policies when she realises that people won't accept them. Bombing another country as a diversionary tactic only worked for 2 days, and wasn't really helpful to her cause because that went down really well didn't it? her stumbling apology to the Windrush people, not convincing. Brexit? All going to plan. She's probably not on my Christmas card list. Although I'm sure she's impressed someone?
     
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  2. VocalMinority

    VocalMinority Well-Known Member

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    Rare to meet somebody who's more of an apologist than I am :emoticon-0148-yes:.
     
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  3. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    NO MORE POLITICS!!!!!!

    COME ON YOU SAINTS!!!!!!
     
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  4. Brinkworth Saint

    Brinkworth Saint Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. As a country we need to retain our respect and continue to offer opinions to those who would disagree with us. Politicians get elected on their chosen platforms and then have the challenge of meeting as wide an acceptance of their policy(s) as possible. They will get things wrong and unintended consequences will happen. My measure of our political leaders is how they correct mistakes, the attitude in doing so and the acknowledging in full the impact on individuals or groups most affected. I then make my own judgement.
     
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  5. San Tejón

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  7. Brinkworth Saint

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    Just to confirm what I said i would do in an earlier reply, I have tonight sent a detailed email to my MP requesting a full honest explanation of this whole mess. If I get a reply I’ll post the main points.
     
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  8. greensaint

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    Just a thought for those who think the Windrush malarky is an issue but doesn't really, and couldn't affect them.

    After 4yrs retired I recently applied for, and was successful in getting a NHS post to help mental heath sufferers gain paid employment. As an ex Nurse, and someone who experienced such health difficulties myself it's something I'm very passionate about.

    I 'got' the job 5 weeks ago but am still unable to take up the post. The NHS now expect you to pay for your own DBS (£44), ok, done and all good.
    They also under the anti terrorism stuff brought in by May expect me to demonstrate I am entitled to work in the uk. This is a problem apparently despite currently receiving an NHS pension..

    I was born in this country, never worked abroad and had a 30yr career in the NHS. I provided a birth certificate copy, photo driving licence, details of my bank account opened in 1973 and list of employers 1973-2014. Not good enough. Because there is a 4yr gap in employment and I hold no CURRENT passport I am seen as 'suspicious' and am required to provide further details (apparently original birth cert + fathers + work references). I've requested the cert stuff (another£25 thanks May), My volunteering reference (4yrs at the local library) is 'unsuitable' so I may yet be refused. Without fibbing (or applying for a Passport I don't need) I can't meet these criteria.

    This is how we live now
     
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  9. San Tejón

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    Is this only related to getting employment in the NHS?
    I spent several years in Spain, before getting work in the UK, in the care industry, before taking another two years off to care for my wife, before returning to full employment two years ago, so can’t get my head around why you are being asked to jump through so many unnecessary hoops.

    My wife wants to know where you will be deported to. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    She’s just a naughty little girl
     
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    Apparently all employers and now landlords have obligations under immigration and anti-terrorism laws to check people's status. I suspect the NHS is just playing it 'straight' and following the letter of the law. Just seems crazy when I've 30yrs service in the NHS.

    Of course I may've blotted my copybook around 6-7yrs ago while attending a compulsory 'Prevent' workshop. After watching a scary video we were advised on signs to look out for when someone is being radicalised. One of the signs was 'protesting about the war in Iraq'. But that's me I cried, much scribbling in notebooks followed. That's you on a list my mate said smirking, maybe he's right.

    If deported I shall move to my mate's place in the Charente and look after his chickens.
     
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  12. Saints_Alive

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    It's 50 years ago today since this appalling stain on UK politics happened....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech

    I've been watching the Stephen Lawrence anniversary documentary and it could be said that Powell's views fostered an anti-immigrant feeling in a whole generation of white people that his killers were the offspring of.
     
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    How much do tax pay for all the bureaucracy ? The thought of a bigger government, with more bloated pencil pushers doing the minimum work and keeping their head down until they get their pension is scary
     
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43861391

    The government has announced £6m of funding to help children with alcoholic parents get support and advice.

    We need to see far more of this. The main political parties joining together to make policies . This is a joint Government/Labour initiative. There are good ideas on both sides and that needs to be recognised more often. Less bickering, opportunism and back stabbing please.
     
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  16. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    David Lammy MP received this letter

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    This letter doesn't bother me. Clearly a poorly educated bigot. It's the chorus of Hear-Hears that may follow that trouble me.
     
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  18. Schrodinger's Cat

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    I thought Nigel Farage was better educated than that
     
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  19. San Tejón

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  20. Whiteley Saint

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43875246

    Another possible example of cross party co-operation this time on the way forward for the NHS. Backbenchers this time. A long way to go yet but much more of this and things might actually get done!
     
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