Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

Seriously...the same ****e joke 24 hours later?

You lot have not won any trophy since 1980.
You moved grounds to challengefor a top 4 spot and are (again) fighting relegation, and yourselves, and your owners, and your stewards and just about anyone one else.
You booed Fat Sam out cos you wanted your 1980s idol and then booed him out cos you have bottled another complete season...again...and you mock a club challenging for a top 4 spot

Apart from that ... great post

 

I would say the players certain to leave this summer are Nkoudou, Llorente and Janssen.

A probable departure being Toby.

Potential departures being Rose, Sissoko, Dembele and Vorm.

Vorm apparently wants to stay, so I could see him being given an extra year if we can`t bring in another GK, I would not be surprised to see Sissoko kept around as a squad player, unless he wants a move for more playing time. Rose has had a poor season and would there be many takers at the levels Levy would demand, I won`t be surprised if he stays and gets his head down again, even after he gobbed off. With Dembele there are rumours of interest from China and Italy and he is towards the end of his contract so we may decide to cash in if he wants one last big payday, personally I would offer him another deal and let him mentor his eventual replacement, whoever that may be.

 

I don’t think it matters who you sign or how good they are, trying to implement that many players in one go is massive ask. Even if, like you say, most will spend the time on the bench. Players need match time, not just training to develop the understanding that we often see with the likes of Eriksen and Alli. My concern would be how disjointed we’d still look when they come in. We’ve had players enter the team this season who have been with us for a while, and we’ve looked like a different team.
Whilst I also feel that we need to freshen things up for next season, I just think we need to be very careful how we go about it. The loss of Rose and Alderwiereld would mean their replacements would actually be required to have significant game time. We’ve only got to look at how much Sanchez has featured this season, and the way we’ve switched from a back 3 to a back 4 quite a lot. Davies is also looking shattered because he’d had to be relied upon due to rose turning into Eric Cartmen and being injured. Therefore, their replacements would feature quite extensively, IMO. It’s a real shame that both those players could be off for different reasons, because this time last year you’d never have thought it. It’s two signings that we really could have done without having to replace.

If we’re then talking about a first choice CM and a marquee signing, that’s 4. Then we’ve got to actually rest Kane a bit more and look after him with another striker who can feature more than llorente and Janssen. Granted, the striker won’t feature too much, but we’d be talking about 4 1/2 players really. Much more than that, and it gets tricky, and we’ve not even moved onto the squad player upgrades at this point.

I’m not saying it’s out of the question, but I just think it’ll be harder to implement than we’re anticipating, and as a result we could see some frustrating performances with a lack of cohesion.

I’m not sure why we’re talking about Modric or Bale, as they are way out of the question, IMO. If we can’t pay Toby his wages, how the hell are we gonna get the likes of Bale? Not to mention the transfer fee that comes with him.

I have no idea who we sign this summer. I like the look of De Ligt and think he’s worth a fee similar to Sanchez. He’d be top of my list. I also think some shrewd business would be Rondon. He’s proven what he can do in a crap PL team, and I think with better players around him, he could be bloody useful. He’d also cost us next to nothing from our transfer budget, as levy will hold all the cards due to west Brom’s Relegation.

Interesting times ahead, but probably our most important window in a very long time.

 

Modric carries a certain feasibility if we somehow convinced Los Ladrones to pay 50% of his wages for the remainder of his contract, although that is still fraught with difficulties as the 50% we'd be paying would be £127k p/w, which would not only lead to a sudden beeline of players towards Levy's door but all manner of think pieces of "Why weren't Spurs willing to meet Alderweireld's demands?" articles as if £23k every week is mere pennies.

The only other suggestion is some completely infeasible notion such as we pay Los Ladrones a fee of *picks figure out of the air* £25m so we can loan him for those final two years of his contract while paying him 30% of his wages, which is a far more manageable £76k p/w...but I doubt even Levy at his most Levyest would be able to pull that one out of the bag.

Yeah, at that point just defaulting to being linked with Kovacic is more realistic...

 

But why would RM pay any of his wages? Is that where we finally see evidence of our “special relationship?”

 

I'm of the opinion that the right players can fit into the right system under the right manager, it's a three stage process but if you have right ingredients then in theory it should go smoothly. Pep has just proven that, granted he obviously has a greater pool of players to choose from due to City's financials but all of his signings this season have been perfect for the style of football he's wanted to implement (OK, so Mendy's missed most of the season but you get the point).

Compare that with AVB's seven. Five of those were attack-minded, technically gifted players who were asked to go into a painfully boring, rigid, side-to-side, defensive setup that stifled all of them with perhaps Eriksen who's just a class apart. It's no surprise Chadli and Lamela vastly improved under Poch. It was a shame Paulinho wasn't a Poch signing because I think he'd have flourished under him, unfortunately he was too far "AVB'd" for even Poch to rescue.

Likewise with Everton, Koeman just thought signing a bunch of players without having an actual style, along with signing three CAMs (Gylfi, Rooney Klaasen) but no striker to replace Lukaku, would just fall into place nicely, pure naivety on his part and there's a reason he was sacked.

We're now approaching a summer window in a unique position to be able to attract some high level talent that'd have a high probability of fitting Pochettino's style with ease. Up until now, we've primarily bought players with the hope they'll turn out good, more so than buying players who already are good. A large budget, brand new stadium and (hopefully) CL football, this is an excellent opportunity for the club to make a huge statement with a number of top signings.

 

Levy will just have to remind Florentino Perez that, if he doesn't play nice, USB sticks filled with all manner of incriminating data will arrive on the editor's desks of Mundo Deportivo, Sport and L'Esportiu the following morning.

 

The 2 examples of wrong system/wrong players/wrong manager probably have a fair bit to do with wrong DoF and wrong owner too. I'm not sure to what extent AVB and Koeman got to choose those players and how much they were chosen by Baldini and Walsh with help from Levy and Moshiri. I think Klopp started off being given players by the Americans but that seems to have stopped now and he taps up Southampton's players and he gets who he wants.

I'm pretty sure that Pep doesn't get told he can't have what he wants very often. Certainly, he won't be given a second or third rate imitation of his choice signing and told to get on with it. Conte's had huge success but being given Drinkwater and Barkley must have been a bit of a hair raising experience for a bloke used to being given pretty much most of what he wanted at Juve.

 

I'm not too sure we will tbh

 

Off the top of my head I can say there's two LAdPCeV-B signings we didn't provide, Moutinho and Willian (the former due to being tied up in 3rd party shenanigans that bloated the fee Porto demanded, the latter after Chelsea gazumped us after Uncle Roman offered to help out his mate Suleyman Kerimov) which led to us signing Dembele and Eriksen instead. After that a few of the signings made during his time can be vouched for

Vertonghen wasn't his, as we'd bid for him the previous January and Levy was seen meeting Verts in Amsterdam a week or two before AVB was unveiled
Lloris was likely his, given the first (rejected) bid was made in early August
Soldado was his, as he overruled Baldini's suggestion of Benteke
Holtby had to be his, as we didn't have a DoF at the time he was signed
Fryers likely wasn't his, more a case of Levy sticking two fingers up at Alex Ferguson

 

Have faith, bro.

I fancy us to turn some heads in the summer.

 

Are you an ITK?


Don't tease me

 

Did actually get solid info from time to time from a mate who knew someone at the club, I should've posted on SCITK and become ITK Famous . Nowadays my mate lives in the US so don't speak to him.

I'm just mere speculating this time around but really do think the club might go for it, this ain't another Isco windup (@The RDBD lol) but just feel Levy wouldn't pass up the opportunity to make a huge splash to go with the new stadium. I ain't saying to expect Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar but I do feel we might try and go for someone with some top pedigree.

 

If he got any previous signings made correct, then he isn't.

 

ahaha, still bitter and crying.
LOSSSERRR

 

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Forever blowing.......

 

So if we are going to increase wages..why can't Toby's wage demands or something close, be met?

 

We've supposedly offered him a second deal of £130k but he apparently wants £180k. To put that into perspective, Kompany and Otamendi earn £120k at City while Hummels and Boateng are on £130k at Bayern, so Toby is after £50k-£60k above current title winning CBs. Only two CBs in Europe would be earning more than Toby if we gave him that £180k and thats Sergio Ramos and Thiago Silva who are both supposedly on £200k at Real and PSG respectively.

Levy may get mocked for running a tight ship but he's offered Toby a deal that makes him one of the best paid CBs in Europe. Personally I don't think he wants to stay and is deliberately asking for such a high wage because he knows we can't afford it.

 

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I hope you’re right, but we have to ask ourselves whether Poch will actually get who he wants, or whether levy will have some say on who the player is, even before negotiations have started.
Then there’s the timing of when we do our business, and whether we really are attractive enough for these players we hope to sign.
For me, there’s so many hurdles. Based on previous experiences, I don’t have the confidence you have, because of our historical approach to transfers.
We’re asking for a lot to change this window.

1) Poch getting who he wants to suit his style of play.
2) Levy not interfering, and just getting on with it.
3) The World Cup bang smack in the middle.
4) The change to deadline day.
5) The time constraints before, and after the World Cup.
6) The amount of players we need to shift and bring in.

Even if Levy has a new approach, there’s a lot of work to do.
If once the season has finished we hear of someone lined up to sign at the very start of the window, I may change my view, as that will be a change of approach straight away. Not just in terms of doing business early, but also the fact that we are signing before selling. Time is of the essence this summer.