Everyone knows my views on parachute payments which I feel are unfair as failure gets rewarded to give an unfair advantage when failed Prem teams are able to get given £59.7m over the next 3 seasons. First payment of well over £20m is more money than many clubs in the Championship see. This season shows the difference in what some clubs can do without that cash and also demonstrates the value of the squads competing in this league. Villa spent £67.8m Boro spent £62.7m Hull City £62m Wolves £41.1m Derby £41m Sunderland £40.6m Fulham £37.4m Norwich £36.8m Leeds £29.9m Only Leeds have not had any parachute payments from this group. Villa, Boro, Wolves & Hull have all employed a manager to make sure promotion to the prem happens. Hull obviously too late for this season. But the money Leeds have spent on players is high compared to the teams below Leeds spend, with many of them being above Leeds in the league table. Money and a manager is required to almost guarantee promotion but the most important thing is a manager. Cardiff are way down the spend league with only spending £18m on the squad but guess what they may win automatic this season. Yes they had parachute payments recently and still have some of those players. I also have a feeling that a lot of the £30m Leeds spent has been on the future as we brought in a hell of a lot of overseas kids talent. The return on our spend is appalling. Yes we can blame Radz and Orta and we certainly blamed Thomas who was sacked when we were in 8th place. However the league table is showing smaller clubs with lesser players who have spent much less being above us in the league. the 2018 league Table was published yesterday and Leeds Utd were bottom. So who is to blame?
Wolves have spent £41m but also have a bunch of loan players who are valued way over £10m each. So manager of the year should go to the cockernee Harris for what hes done for nilwall
Well Rad did say he would copy the Wolves model once they were cleared, as they were of any wrongdoing. Therefore, can we assume circa 40m will be spent on players and several 10m loanees. If so, I’m impressed and will gladly admit any misgivings I had were wrong
Not going to happen and if we still have PH in charge we could spend £100m and we would still be in a relegtaion dog fight. Statistics can be used to argue both sides of an argument but in the case of our manager there is no good side of the stats to skew. Bottom of the league this year, bottom of the league since he came in for away games. Barnsley doing better without him we are doing worse with him. Manager is key to go alongside the money
I’ve posted it before so i’m not going to repeat the sources but in summary my view is this: Spends can be misleading as you need to look at sales you have made, and also the starting point The 4 clubs with substantially higher squad market valuations than anyone else are Wolves, Fulham, Villa and Boro ......... all in the top 6 There is a strong correlation between market valuation and league position. Money talks. That said, the management also matters. Leeds are quite a bit lower than we ‘should’ be. Clubs doing better than their market valuation are (from memory): Cardiff Some other club, name Deleted as I can’t admit to it Preston Ipswich Derby (but they seem to be fading) As we are underperforming ...... my view is the answer to the question has to be ‘both’ from the options available However I think the problem is bigger, the DOF approach is flawed. The guy finding players is not really being held accountable. The coach has an unbalanced squad, he can give ‘input’ but he’s not in control. On the individuals, Orta has brought in too much crap (though some nice players also), and I’m doubtful about their character. That’s as important as skill. PH I have until now given the benefit of the doubt, but he lost me the other night. I’ve concluded he’s not up to it.
Agree with most but its about time people in this country started to get real.DOF is everywhere in Europe and even in many clubs in the Prem. Best teams in the world have a DOF the old way of doing stuff with Big Sam and ‘Arry’ are over even Man City have one but it all depends on the budget he has.
I agree that millwall have provided by far the biggest bang for their buck. Superb season for them. Can't complain for our return on £10-11M either.
Fine but surely a British dof can be found or better still an ex Leeds player that understands what’s required. Maybe gray strachan or McAllister would be up to it. They couldn’t be worse than Orta
I’m not against a post called DOF. It all depends where the power lies, can the coach say ‘eff off I don’t want him’’ ? Because TC and PH up to now couldn't, I think. If DOF delivers a service to help the coach - good. If they run the show then you have power without responsibility
Think the guy needs a massive contacts book which Orta does have Both Tommy and Heck have said they get to agree or not every player? So I think it comes down to budget, if hes told to shop at B&Ms we get crap. He had talks with Grabban Marriot Hugel and Afobe but all were either stupid transfer fee or stupid wages. He is having sucess with the kids isnt he as hes found some gems. Agree gems need to deliver but so far so good. But I still have a problem with the Bhouy deal and Idaguci deal
His contacts book hasn’t worked too well with the first team. Appears to be full of foreigners from far flung places. We need mainly British players like Forshaw and it wouldn’t require a foreign dof to find or negotiate with those. I still think Ortas hands were tied with a lot Of his business due to budgets and salary cap
Think the problem is orta seems to be the right hand man of radrizanni rather than just a director of football. The guy has way too much input into all aspects of the club,why does he appear with the team in the changing rooms on match days not his remit surely. Orta is the cancer that needs cutting out before the patient (Leeds United) can start to recover. Wake up radrizanni because for a supposedly genius business man you're hiding it well at the minute.
That situation probably isn’t helped by Rads lack of football knowledge If anyone was running a business for the first time, with zero knowledge of that, they would be hugely dependent on their management staff. Didn’t he say Orta wanted tc to have a few extra weeks in charge so Rad agreed. Gives an idea of Ortas influence in my opinion
Valid point Eire. Don't know much about the ins and outs of business but know a slippery ****er when I see one and orta is that alright along with Angus kinnear who has also gone very quiet.
We need minimum 4 huge capable uncompromising defenders with experience of the English leagues. We have 1. They are out there, other teams find / develop / pull them out of their @rses, why can't we? All the over-achieving sides this year had that solidity and physical presence at the back, and bullied us into submission when we met them. Get it done Rad/Orta/Whoever and we're half-way there.
