Off Topic Is the UK right to get

Can anyone honestly say, in their heart of hearts....all bullshit virtue signalling aside, can anyone say they really give a solitary **** that some guy in the middle east used chemicals to attack some other Syrians?

There are far worse atrocities that go on elsewhere,on a daily basis, and I dont see the UK and US looking to jump in and sort out the atrocities in Saudi Arabia or North Korea.

We should keep our noses out of this ****, it doesn't concern us.
Instead of spending millions going to war, why not fix our ****ing health service, or increase the police budget so we actually have a police presence in London, so the crime rate doesnt keep ****ing sky rocketing.
**** Syria and everyone in it.

 

Rattled.

 

in your opinion

 

While we are at it, who gives a **** that Hitler exterminated 6 million people? We had other issues in London at the time such as Tommy who was hooked on opioids and living in a coal bunker with a pigeon.

**** the world, BNP!!!!

 

I would hardly compare Assad's transgressions to Genocide

Funny thing is, a lot of the same morons calling for war will be the same ones moaning about refugees when we drone strike half of Syria and make hundreds of thousands of people homeless.

Fact is, Saudi Arabia and North Korea have far worse human rights abuse records than anything Assad has done. Yet no one seems to give a **** about that.
Be consistent in your outrage.

 

Maybe the yanks fancy trying out some new weapons.

 

Where have I approved or condoned things happening anywhere else? You seem to think that we should just ignore it on the basis of worse things happening elsewhere. Do you know what being hit with chemical agent feels like out of interest?

By your logic let's just ignore domestic violence because there are people being raped and murdered.

It's no wonder you have the reputation you do on this board Bod, seriously, this is basic stuff. Just go to bed.

 

No, you are having trouble understanding.

Why are people outraged about Syria?
Yet no one seems to give a **** about people being stoned to death for nothing in Saudi Arabia.
Why are you the UK and US governments not looking to intervene against Saudi Arabia?
Do you think Trump gives a **** about Syrians being gassed?
You honestly dont think there is an ulterior motive?

I freely admit, I do not give a **** what happens in Syria, or to Syrians. I really dont.
Maybe if we spent less time over there bombing the **** out of them, impressionable young lunk heads in the UK wouldn't become radicalised and start bombing kiddy concerts.

 

Whilst I agree with what you’ve said I think everything is calculated by the yanks.

Iraq gave them control of a lot of oil.

Afghanistan gave them control of one of the biggest uranium deposits in the world. It also gave them control of most of the worlds opium.

Lybia more oil and access to the coast for gas and oil pipeline. Syria is next in line to go through to give access of the pipeline. My understanding which may be wrong is both countries were siding with Russia for a different route for the pipeline enabling Russia to do it instead of the Americans and Saudis.

Think Greece and turkey are also instrumental in this as both have a lot to gain from it so both seem to be playing both sides.

Read an article a while ago about how dependency on oil and gas has held the world back technologically by a hundred years. Where systems and technologies that would make our dependency on oil etc are being crushed by companies that control all the oil.

Pretty certain that Elon musks grandfather invented something that could power a city and was all destroyed in a robbery in his apartment in America.

 

Honestly I'm with bod in terms of leaving Syria alone.

I'm not even convinced he gassed his own people.

We have already made a mess of 2 countries (Libya and Iraq, Afghanistan had always been a mess) why we adding Syria to that pile.

We have no exit strategy or long term plans and I'm pretty sure everything was running alright (the minorities were alright anyway) before we plonked our fat noses in it and let isis run riot

 

Israel has the most to gain by starting a war over there. They want Syria and Iran out of their way.

You always get the feeling these things are false flag operations. Why would Assad who has basically won need to gas people. Makes no sense.

 

I aint convinced either, but even if he did, I still dont know why the UK feels it is its place to intervene with other nations and start beating our chest.
**** em, let them run their own uprising.

 

Because Mr. T doesn't want to look a **** alone

 

Absoutely agree. Leave Syria alone! I believe 75 people were killed in that chemical attack, how many more people will be killed if we or any other country takes military action. We can't even manage policing our own Cities let alone the rest of the world, this year alone, there has been 35 people fatally stabbed in London, we need to get off this warmonger machine of the Media. There are worse atrocities happening in DRC but the world don't squeak. Probably because Syria creates 10,000 more barrels of oil per day than the latter and that no one gives a shhite about Central Africa, whereas in the region of Syria everyone wants to control the oil, let alone the religious significance of neighbouring countries...it's not our business and keep out i say, this is not about the people this is about super powers wanting to control areas and using us as their puppets.

 

Agree 100%
We cant fund our NHS, so god knows how many UK citizens will needlessly die in the next few years due to an inadequate health service, yet our government want to spend millions going to war with the Middle east because some guy over there may or may not have used chemical weapons in his own country against a couple dozen of his own people. **** em.

 

I give a **** about people being gassed by chemical weapons.

However, is the solution to launch a load of state of the art fireworks at targets that they’ve given the Syrians and Russians 3 day’s advance warning to clear?

Is it ****, it’s nothing more than political grandstanding and will no doubt be used by Trump to bury some domestic news that he wants to divert attention away from.

Anyone who thinks this is serious military intervention as opposed to tokenism that suits more than one purpose is naive

 

Fatal stabbings in London, 2018

• January 1 - Steve Frank Navarez-Jara, 20, Islington
• January 3 - Elizabeta Lacatusu, 44, Redbridge
• January 8 - Daniel Frederick, 34, died in Hackney
• January 9 - Dami Odeyingbo, 18, stabbed in Bromley
• January 11 - Harry Uzoka, 25, killed in Shepherd's Bush
• January 28 - Yaya Mbye, 26, stabbed in Stoke Newington
• January 29 - Juan Olmos Saca, 39, stabbed in Peckham
• January 31 - Khader Saleh, 25, stabbed at Wormwood Scrubs prison
• February 3 - Hassan Ozcan, 19, knifed in Barking
• February 3 - Kwabena Nelson, a youth worker, died after being stabbed near his home in Tottenham
• February 8 - Hannah Leonard, 55, stabbed in a flat in Camden
• February 11 - Sabri Chibani, 19, stabbed in Streatham
• February 13 - Saeeda Hussain, 54, was stabbed in Ilford
• February 14 - Lord Promise Nkenda, 17, stabbed in Canning Town
• February 18 - Lewis Blackman, 19, knifed in Kensington
• February 19 - Rotimi Oshibanjo, 26, stabbed in Southall
• February 20 - Sadiq Mohammed, 20, stabbed in Camden
• February 20 - Abdikarim Hassan, 17, stabbed in Camden
• February 25 - Michael Boyle, 44, stabbed in the chest
• March 1 - Christopher Beaumont, 42, stabbed in Hammersmith
• March 5 - Laura Figueira, 47, stabbed in Twickenham
• March 5 - Kelva Smith, 20, knifed in Croydon
• March 14 - Lyndon Davis, 18, stabbed in Chadwell Heath
• March 16 - Naomi Hersi, 36, found with stab wounds at hotel near Heathrow Airport
• March 17 - Russell Jones, 23, stabbed in Enfield
• March 18 - Tyrone Silcot, 41, stabbed in Hackney
• March 19 - Balbir Johal, 48, knifed in Southall
• March 19 - A 41-year-old was stabbed to death in Waltham Forest but is yet to be identified
• March 20 - Beniamin Pieknyi, 21, stabbed at Stratford shopping centre
• March 26 - David Potter, 50, stabbed in Tooting
• March 29 - Reece Tshoma, 23, stabbed in Plumstead
• March 30 - Leyla Mtumwa, 36, found with stab wounds at a home in Haringey
• April 1 - A 20-year-old was stabbed in Wandsworth, but police have not formally identified the victim
• April 4 - A 38-year-old man stabbed at a house in Lewisham has not yet been formally identified
• April 4 - Israel Ogunsola, 18, was stabbed to death in Hackney on 4 April. Police were alerted by a motorist and performed first aid but the teenager died at the scene
• April 5 - Five teenagers and one one man were stabbed in London within a space of 24 hours. One of the victims was aged 13 and left fighting for his life
• April 7 - Man was stabbed by a woman outside Highbury and Islington station at around 10pm, though his condition is still unclear
• April 9 - A man in his 70s was stabbed four times and robbed as he returned to his Harold Hill home after collecting his pension

Timeline of fatal shootings

• February 12 Taxi driver Bulent Kabala, 41, shot dead on a roundabout in Enfield
• March 8 Kelvin Odunuyi, 19, shot in Wood Green amid escalating gang warfare
• March 14 Joseph Williams-Torres, 20, shot dead in a stationary car in Walthamstow
• March 25 Abraham Badru, 26, shot in Dalston, East London, without warning
• April 2 Tanesha Melbourne, 17, gunned down by drug gang in Tottenham
• April 2 Amaan Shakoor, 16, shot in the face outside Walthamstow Leisure Centre
• April 9 An armed man was shot dead by police in Romford after threatening people with a gun near a petrol station

Acid Attacks

• From 2011-1016 there were 1,464 crimes involving acid or corrosive substance
• Northumbria recorded the second highest with 109 recorded attacks, Cambridgeshire had 69 attacks, Hertfordshire 67, Greater Manchester 57 and Humberside 52
• Of the 2078 acid attack crimes recorded for the years 2011-2016 only 414 of those crimes resulted in charges being brought.

Maybe we need to declare war on ourselves!

 

So maybe instead of sending a bunch of our kids and tens of millions of pounds worth of equipment 2000 miles away to fight and possibly die in some other peoples war.....maybe we should increase police spending in our captial and/or give the NHS a much needed cash injection.

 

So what happens when we bomb **** out of Syria and kill Assad ?


The friendly freedom fighters Al-Nusra aka ISIS will be given the keys and absolutely no revenge will be taken against the majority aka Assad's supporters ?

How anyone can side with the radical Jihadists against Assad is astonishing .

The only proof of chemical attacks is the testimony from the white helmets a shamelessly pro ISIS Western funded group that have been caught staging fake news reports with crisis actors multiple times .
No UN scientists or investigstors have been anywhere near the so called crime scene the media and Governments are just pushing the propogander so idiots watch Kay Burley whilst having their corn flakes staring at the telly shouting about bombing the bastard .

Some have proven on here that they fell for this yet again hook line and sinker .

 

The people are against him, so if they are dead they cant fight back in future.