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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Mon 9 Apr)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Good Morning Everyone

    Fans are starting to turn on Saiz.

    Some are suggesting he is a show pony!

    Others are even comparing him to Ramon Nunez...

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    Mark Ford@Markford64LUFC


    All this potential Saiz has? When are we going to see it #lufc




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    Kian@KianP16

    Replying to @KianMichael01

    Saiz - been awful recently but obviously has the ability to perform just needs the confidence #lufc



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    Mark Ford@Markford64LUFC


    Jannson. Getting involved again where he shouldn't and gets booked again. And some want him as captain. #lufc. Saiz the show pony achieves little again yet gets fawned over all the time? What am i missing.


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    Sam Snaddon@Sam_Snaddon

    What has happened to Saiz? Why at Leeds if players get an injury do they come back a shadow of themselves? Subderland offered nothing at all other than left winger. We just don’t look arsed at all #lufc


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    Danny Williamson@DannyWill2

    Tell yer what. Samu Saiz couldn't even lace Hernandez's boots. Can't stand fans singing for him, he's a bad egg and it's clear to see. #LUFC



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    Georgina Jane Petty@orangina17

    Phillips to go. Saiz is talented but a liability. Simple misses against a poor team today, lucky we have a decent youth system and quality in BPF in goal & Pablo #lufc



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    CGZ@LUFC_CGZ

    Honestly... since December, Pablo has made Saiz look like Ramon Nunez #lufc



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    Tommo@LUFC1992

    Been watching Saiz over recent games.
    He was the first off the pitch at the end of the Fulham game. Today he was the closest player to Pablo when he scored but didn’t celebrate with him.
    Not the actions of someone who’s happy or wants to stay #lufc




    Its fair to say Bailey Peacock-Farrell made some great saves on Saturday.

    It begs the question, if Wiedwald had not been such a nightmare, and had Lonnergan not been injured, would BFP have been released in the Summer?

    Do we need another number one keeper, or can young Bailey fill that slot?

    A new keeper would have been very high for the Summer wish list with many, but with Bailey's recent performances, do we have more pressing area's?




    What were your opinions on young Paudie O'Connor's debut?




    Has Berardi become a liability?

    Is it time for him to go?

    Are we ever likely to see him in a Leeds shirt again, especially when you consider he is now looking at a 5 game ban!

    Passion or liability?
     
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  2. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  3. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning all...

    Typical of some fans, start slating a good player on social media and when he asks to leave those same ones will cry Judas just like they did with Wood. There are always worse players than Saiz on the pitch, I don’t understand them sometimes.

    Berardi has always been a bit of a liability, I’d like to see him replaced in the starting 11 but he’d be a great player to have on the bench with the ability to cover RB, LB and CB if needed.

    Not sure about another #1 keeper maybe he’d improve even more with a solid defence in front of him. Didn’t we once send a keeper out to train with Arsenal and learn a few tricks from their coaches, I wonder if you can still do that kind of thing?
     
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  4. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Morning Matt,

    Shouldn't that be on the betting thread but shows what you're left with discussing about with your season. <laugh> :emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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    Of course Saiz does nothing but show boat. <doh>. That wasn't him that won the ball on the edge of our box and then made the final pass to Pablo for the goal was it?
     
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  6. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning ristac, which keeper did we send to Arsenal?
     
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  7. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Steve
     
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  8. milkyboy

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    Saiz was our best player before Christmas without a doubt in my view. He’s lost form, but he clearly has ability. Does he make the wrong decisions, yup, but he gets into positions, generally from his own play, where he has decisions to make. Pablo has been great.... But this time last year he was way worse than saiz has been of late and a complete passenger. Personally I like both and we have way bigger issues than saiz.

    I don’t believe we were ever looking to off load bpf... and wouldn’t have been looking to this summer either... he was seen as one for the future, all the deals that fell through including the Swedish one were loan deals to get him experience.

    None of which matters now. I think the club will want an experienced keeper for next year but whether that’s as first choice or not is open to debate. Bpf’s form has at least made the GK situation a lower priority than it was a month ago.

    I think if we put him back to number 2 though, there will be interest from elsewhere for him in the summer.
     
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  9. 1964white

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    Good morning Ell & all

    Typical of our fans slating off our quality players, it wasn't so long ago when they were on Pablo's back

    Pontus, Saiz & Hernandez are the ones we should be building a team around. I fear that won't be the case as they head off for pastures new & we settle for mediocrity yet again !
     
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    They are idiots Rist
     
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  11. 1964white

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    Southampton are coming down

    Go nick Alex McCarthy from them in the summer
     
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  12. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Xbox. Good thing is Leeds fans aren't fickle, eh?
     
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    BPF seems to have stepped up to the plate when asked by PH, so for me thats one decision the manager has got right. Should we replace him? If PH is still here in the Summer I think not but a new manager may want BPF as No2.

    Saiz is a frustrated player like Alioski, both have talent and are players who can turn games but dont have the players around them to allow them to do their stuff. At the start of the season they were both playing well and so was the team and players who reached the top of the league dont get shyte all of a sudden. All teams in this league go through a flat spot but our flat spot turned into a blow out. For me Thomas's style of management and tactics lost him his job and this club hasn't recovered yet. We have the same problems only worse now with this manager who refuses to use certain players, carries on playing some out of position etc. We have players who have been ostracized this season, some who we knew were shyte like Sacko selected 3 times.

    For me I've had enough this season and cant wait for it to end. There are some on here who hate people like me for talking facts, because I didnt go tio the game but hey ho my view is worth just as much as Marcos's. Our manager is the worst thing thats happened to this club in a while and has killed our season. No other way of saying it because whichever form guide you look at we are dire under this manager and its no use blaming the players for everything. These players were top of the league and have been in freefall since October. Our form has us in 20th position based upon last 6 games, if you factor in every game PH has been in charge we are 22nd. We are bottom on the away form guide, 16th on the home form guide so much for fortress Leeds. Yet we have one player who has the best form in the whole league, Pablo who is 1st on chances created at 3.45 per game and ahead of Snodgrass etc.

    I want us to have a settled club, team, management team but there isnt any way of hiding facts and putting a gloss on them. Phillips is a case in point here, a player who pushed his way into the first 11 who scored goals, won tackles and passed well, where has that player gone he isnt even good enough for the kids right now. Same for O'Kane. Some say our team was set up to play attacking football and cannot do the new things PH wants them to do? SO WHY NOT PLAY ATTACKING FOOTBALL WITH OUR ATTACKING TEAM AND LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WERE BOUGHT TO DO? Can only improve results. We were 8tyh when PH arrived.... anyone see us winning games and actually climbing into the top 10?
     
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  14. 2 pennth

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    Morning Doc and all.
    Keep your views coming you are entitled to them. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Good Morning Matt and co from a hazy Bardsey
    Well I agree that Alex Macarthy should be bought from Saints
    Helander from Italy
    Oliver Burke from West Brom always fancied him when he played at Forest this will give is a goalscorer and pace on the wing
    Jackie Marriot for the strikers role
    Yiadom free from Barnsley
    Total outlay26m which in the great scheme of things is peanuts today
    We should receive money from Wood and Taylor money from Rose and possibly Lewis cook which will go along way towards what we need
     
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    leeds60 Well-Known Member

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    Fasting today as I am having yet another endoscopy this afternoon at Jimmys something to look forward to oh its so much fun being old!
     
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    Not much fun is it, hope everything turns out ok.
    :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  18. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Its better than the alternative.
    Good luck anyway.
     
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  19. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    We need rid of Orta and a proper manager appointing!
    If Rad doesn't get the message we need rid of him too.
     
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  20. 1964white

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    Good Luck Leeds60
     
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