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Grand National 2018

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by ChelseaCOE2012, Mar 28, 2018.

  1. karlos5001

    karlos5001 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, just read Smokey’s post! Back to the drawing board for me then
     
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  2. karlos5001

    karlos5001 Well-Known Member

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    It won’t really matter anyway, cus I’ve not backed the winner since 2000 Papillon. I was on at 33/1 mind you
     
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  3. CaptainPops

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    Robbie Power set to ride Raz De Maree in the Grand National. James Bowen is booked for Shantou Flyer. Interesting as he could have retained the partnership with the old boy if he wanted..
     
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  4. CaptainPops

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    As de Mee now a non runner in the Grand National.
     
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  5. CaptainPops

    CaptainPops Well-Known Member

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    The final 40 looks like this at present. There are currently 6 horses that are not going to run which I have crossed off assuming owners/trainers don't suddenly have a change of heart. Happy as final nudge looks like will take his chance although to be honest he is still available at 50s anyway:emoticon-0136-giggl:

    1)MINELLA ROCCO (IRE)
    8 11-10 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill
    2)BLAKLION 9 11-09 Simon Such & Gino Paletta Nigel Twiston-Davies
    3)ANIBALE FLY (FR) 8 11-07 J P McManus Tony Martin IRE
    4)THE LAST SAMURI (IRE) 10 11-07 Paul & Clare Rooney Kim Bailey
    5)VALSEUR LIDO (FR) 9 11-06 Gigginstown House Stud Henry de Bromhead IRE
    6)TOTAL RECALL (IRE) 9 11-04 Slaneyville Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE
    7)ALPHA DES OBEAUX (FR) 8 11-03 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
    8)GOLD PRESENT (IRE) 8 11-03 John & Barbara Cotton Nicky Henderson
    9)PERFECT CANDIDATE (IRE) 11 11-02 ISL Recruitment Fergal O'Brien
    10)CAUSE OF CAUSES (USA) 10 11-01 J P McManus Gordon Elliott IRE
    10)SHANTOU FLYER (IRE) 8 11-01 Carl Hinchy Richard Hobson
    11)TENOR NIVERNAIS (FR) 11 11-00 Boultbee Brooks Ltd Venetia Williams
    12)CARLINGFORD LOUGH (IRE) 12 11-00 J P McManus John Kiely IRE
    13)VICENTE (FR) 9 10-13 Trevor Hemmings Paul Nicholls
    15)GO CONQUER (IRE) 9 10-13 Paul & Clare Rooney Jonjo O'Neill
    14)TIGER ROLL (IRE) 8 10-12 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
    15)REGAL ENCORE (IRE) 10 10-12 J P McManus Anthony Honeyball
    16)VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR) 9 10-12 Prof Caroline Tisdall & John Gent David Pipe
    19)RATHVINDEN (IRE) 10 10-12 Ronnie Bartlett Willie Mullins IRE
    20)ACAPELLA BOURGEOIS (FR) 8 10-12 Slaneyville Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE

    17)A GENIE IN ABOTTLE (IRE) 7 10-11 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
    18)CHASE THE SPUD 10 10-11 Christine Banks Fergal O'Brien
    19)WARRIORS TALE 9 10-11 Trevor Hemmings Paul Nicholls
    20)SEEYOUATMIDNIGHT 10 10-11 Quona Thomson Sandy Thomson
    25)AS DE MEE (FR) 8 10-11 The Stewart Family & Judi Dench Paul Nicholls
    21)GAS LINE BOY (IRE) 12 10-10 The Three Graces Ian Williams
    22)THE DUTCHMAN (IRE) 8 10-10 SprayClad UK Colin Tizzard
    23)PLEASANT COMPANY (IRE) 10 10-10 Malcolm Denmark Willie Mullins IRE
    29)BELLSHILL (IRE) 8 10-10 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE
    24)UCELLO CONTI (FR) 10 10-09 Simon Munir/Isaac Souede Gordon Elliott IRE
    25)SAINT ARE (FR) 12 10-09 David Fox Tom George
    26)BEEVES (IRE) 11 10-09 Paul & Clare Rooney Jennie Candlish
    27)RAZ DE MAREE (FR) 13 10-08 James Swan Gavin Cromwell IRE
    28)I JUST KNOW (IRE) 8 10-07 Michael Scholey & the late Ray Scholey Sue Smith
    29)VIRGILIO (FR) 9 10-07 C Edwards, D Futter, A Rushworth Dan Skelton
    30)BAIE DES ILES (FR) 7 10-07 Zorka Wentworth Ross O'Sullivan IRE
    31)MAGGIO (FR) 13 10-07 Douglas Pryde/James Beaumont Patrick Griffin IRE
    32)PENDRA (IRE) 10 10-07 J P McManus Charlie Longsdon
    33)BUYWISE (IRE) 11 10-07 T Hywel Jones Evan Williams
    34)CHILDRENS LIST (IRE) 8 10-07 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE
    35)HOUBLON DES OBEAUX (FR) 11 10-06 Mrs Julian Blackwell Venetia Williams
    36)LORD WINDERMERE (IRE) 12 10-06 Dr Ronan Lambe Jim Culloty IRE
    37)CAPTAIN REDBEARD (IRE) 9 10-06 Stuart Coltherd Stuart Coltherd
    38)BLESS THE WINGS (IRE) 13 10-05 Adrian Butler/S P O'Connor Gordon Elliott IRE
    39)MILANSBAR (IRE) 11 10-05 Robert Bothway Neil King
    40)FINAL NUDGE (IRE) 9 10-05 Corbett Stud David Dennis


    Will they/wont they get in? I reckon a couple more may come out such as Vicente and Pendra:

    47)DOUBLE ROSS (IRE) 12 10-05 Options O Syndicate Nigel Twiston-Davies
    48)ROAD TO RICHES (IRE) 11 10-04 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
    49)DELUSIONOFGRANDEUR (IRE) 8 10-04 McGoldrick Racing 3 Sue Smith
    50)THUNDER AND ROSES (IRE) 10 10-04 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
    51)WALK IN THE MILL (FR) 8 10-03 Baroness Harding Robert Walford
    52)VINTAGE CLOUDS (IRE) 8 10-03 Trevor Hemmings Sue Smith
    53)WOUNDED WARRIOR (IRE) 9 10-01 Gigginstown House Stud Noel Meade IRE
    54)GENERAL PRINCIPLE (IRE) 9 10-01 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE
    55)VIC DE TOUZAINE (FR) 9 10-01 Andrew Brooks & G Moore Venetia Williams
    56)SPLASH OF GINGE 10 10-00 John Neild Nigel Twiston-Davies
    57)BONNY KATE (IRE) 8 10-00 Patricia Hunt Noel Meade IRE
    58)COGRY 9 10-00 Graham and Alison Jelley Nigel Twiston-Davies
    59)SIR MANGAN (IRE) 10 10-00 Frank McAleavy Dan Skelton
    60)MYSTEREE (IRE) 10 10-00 Lynne Maclennan Michael Scudamore
    61)MINELLA DADDY (IRE) 8 9-13 Roddy Owen & Paul Fullagar Peter Bowen
    62)BRAQUEUR D'OR (FR) 7 9-13 Corsellis & Seyfried Paul Nicholls
    63)RELENTLESS DREAMER (IRE) 9 9013 Nigel Morris Rebecca Curtis
    64)KNOCK HOUSE (IRE) 9 9012 Tim Leslie Donald McCain
    65)THE YOUNG MASTER 9 9011 Mike Burbidge & The Old Masters Neil Mulholland
    66)HENRI PARRY MORGAN 10 9-09 Ednyfed & Elizabeth Morgan Peter Bowen
    67)PHIL'S MAGIC (IRE) 8 9-09 Lyreen Syndicate Tony Martin IRE
    68)ALFIE SPINNER (IRE) 13 9-09 Alan Beard & Brian Beard Kerry Lee
    69)DANCING SHADOW (IRE) 9 9-08 The Dancing Shadows Victor Dartnall
    70)ROGUE ANGEL (IRE) 10 9-08 Gigginstown House Stud Mouse Morris IRE
    71)OUT SAM 9 9-06 D Charlesworth Gordon Elliott IRE
    72)KRACKATOA KING 10 9-03 J Harrison Lee & T Howard P'ship Kerry Lee
    73)GOODTOKNOW 10 9-02
     
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  6. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    chase the spud is interesting
     
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  7. rudebwoy

    rudebwoy Well-Known Member

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    Needs heavy deep ground for starters, hasn't run well this year, so ignore him
     
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  8. CaptainPops

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    What does everyone think of Carlingford Lough? Last year was set to carry top weight in the race but didn't run...this year dropped to a mark of 152 from 162. Carries 11 stone. Multiple grade one winner and has to be interesting. Chance and perhaps been aimed at race all year? Runs haven't been convincing but perhaps he s been trained specifically for this race?
     
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  9. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    Think Bryony is going to win it
     
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  10. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    You know that's just guaranteed he'll win now <laugh>
     
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  11. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor
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    The "soft" is starting to disappear and with drying winds, rising temperatures and only the odd shower forecast it should be lovely jumping ground <ok>

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  12. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Looking last night this one stood out off his mark. Multiple Grade 1 winner who has been taken out of this the last couple of years when he was due to lug top weight around. Can't help think this is a potential plot job. His style of running would mean he'd likely need som luck in running to avoid fallers. Trainer also hardly prolific but this is his stable star so wouldn't set too much stock by trainer form. Of the 3 I picked out earlier I'm tempted to drop Buywise for this one. Watch Buywise hack up if I do <laugh>
     
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  13. karlos5001

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    Stick will not be happy. The lovely Alex has backed Ucello Conti according to her blog in the Sporting Life. Cash out now mate!
     
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  14. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    Be typical of her to get the winner of the toughest race of them all to predict though!
     
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    I hope I’m not alone with this. I’ve picked 6 possibly 7 for the National, at the moment placed bets on 4 of them. Every time I look at the race I try to convince myself all my selections could win it. Then I second guess myself. I think I do this every bloody year. Why? Please tell me I’m not the only 1 that does this with the National
     
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  16. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    Na course not, I fancy a different one in the race every day, main reason I won't bet until the day <laugh>
     
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  17. CaptainPops

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    For me...this is the race I get most excited about all year round. The problem is though if you analyse it too much you are unlikely to pick a single horse to finish in the first 5. . I have it whittled down to 5 at present but only ever pick maximum of 3 so process of elimination to go through. I make sure no matter what news feeds come up I stick to my picks.

    On the subject of Alex Hammond I read somewhere that her strike rate for cheltenham wasn't too bad in the end and she could quite miraculously pick the winner. Don't let her selection put you off!
     
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  18. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    With Cause of Causes out I no longer have a horse that I fancy so as it stands I'll be backing a sketchy jumper and a, to the say the least, a very inconsistent horse. Oh and at ridiculous prices too.

    Buywise 50/1
    Houblon Des Obeaux 100/1
     
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    No no no **** me noooooo
     
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  20. CaptainPops

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    Some sad news just come out...a genie in a bottle trained by Noel Mead found dead today..was suffering from a mystery illness apparently. So another you can cross off the runners list :emoticon-0101-sadsm.
     
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