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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I have been away for a week, missed the Palace game and not read anything. Have we signed anyone? Has anyone left? Were we poor against Palace or just not taking our chances?
     
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  2. Erik

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    No signings, Bullard's been officially sacked and has joined Ipswich permanently and we were great for the first 15 minutes against Palace, conceded and then ended up playing our usual dire football.

    Elsewhere, Joey Barton has joined QPR, Birmingham, Stoke, Fulham and Spurs all qualified for the Europa League group stages and Man City have already got a bloody tough Champions League campaign.
     
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  3. Spanner82

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    Erik, dont forget to mention that the scottish dynamic duo are out of europe but Shamrock Rovers Qualified
     
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  4. Erik

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    <ok>

    Oh yeah Chazz, Scotland's dynamic duo are out of Europe but Shamrock Rovers Qualified.
     
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  5. doveston

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    we was **** before you left and got a lot ****ing worse whilst you was away.will be trouble if it dosn't change after 3pm
     
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  6. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

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    Ooh scary, maybe Doveston's going to invade the pitch and give 'em what-for!
     
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  7. doveston

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    meh happy clap all you want
     
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  8. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Ta Doveston. Is it sack the manager time yet then? I cant say i will miss him. If Dave Jones is still available I would get him pronto.
     
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  9. doveston

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    i've got no problem with np.it's the owners i have problems with.
     
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  10. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Im just reading up on all the boards. Amber nectar has a good post about the Allams and their interests, he makes a good comparison with lloyd.
     
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  11. doveston

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    i only do 2 boards.but 'the gift' is a ****ing joke and threatening to take my club away is a ****ing no no.this is about real estate and nothing else.ap buys hull fc and i could not give a **** about the ****ing tripe allams say this season is about saving money.do not tell me they want to but the stadium or move it and not invest in the ****ing squad or training ground.ffs if it wasn't for ap and his warren joyce links we'd have ****ing no one this season.btw listen to the humberside interview with np.when the egyption goalie name is mentioned listen to him.sounds like hes had another player foisted on him.
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    This is the post off amber nectar's officer crabtree
    My point, I guess, is a wider one. There are things about the current regime that don't sit quite right with me. I hope I'm wrong, of course, but the Allams seem to have bought Hull City as a route to other things. They've made an initial splash and now they seem to be going about thing with regards to the football team on the cheap with regards to moving it forward while making a load of gestures and statements that do nothing for the development for Hull City football club, but seem to be more about getting the people of Hull on their side and putting pressure on people to get what they wanted. I was initially happy with their proposals to make the stadium a bit bigger. To me was all about ambition for the football club, but the way they've gone about it and the way in which they seem to be looking so far into a future that may or may not happen while not paying their full attention the short-term needs of the club is worrying.

    What worries me most are the parallels with the Lloyd regime:
    Saved the club from a financial abyss: check.
    Made an initial big financial lay-out with high-profile players: check.
    Have a slick chief exec who doesn't seem to get the majority of the fans: for Mark Maguire read Michael Appleton.
    Seem to be more focused about grand plans for the real estate and business side of the wider Hull sporting empire than they do Hull City's progress on the pitch: check.
    Too many links with the rugby teams: check.
    Behave a bit childishly when they don't get their way: check.
    Things going a bit backwards on the pitch: check.

    Hence my comments about winning games. I'm not convinced about the focus of our owners on what really matters for City. To get players to come to a club in the lower reaches of the Championship in a city that doesn't have the best of reputations means that we might have to pay a bit more for quality. We haggled over Austin and Ayala, the two players I was most gutted we didn't get, until the prices went down to what other teams were willing to pay for them. Which is fine. That makes good business sense to an extent, but it vastly reduces our chances of attracting quality. I just don't get the financial strategy of the Allams. They seem to be willing to spend cash on various things that don't really benefit our cause (see today's HDM re: the underwriting of the costs for the England v Hull rugby league game for the latest example of this) but not willing to pay the extra half million that it would have cost us to stand what would appear to be a very good chance of bringing in two players who would be better than what we've got at what they do. We then start to take pretty desperate measures with regards to getting fans to turn up. The two don't sit right with me right now. Hopefully I'm being a tit.

    It's the Allams' money, and, obviously, they can do what they like with it. I just remain unconvinced over what they are focusing on. Hopefully we've been waiting for the end of the whole Bullard saga before the masterplan comes to life, which I appreciate could well have drained the finances of the Allams, but we do seem to be losing ground to clubs that we should at least be on a par with.

    So all in all, so far I'm not that impressed. Cheap gimmicks don't paper over cracks for very long.
     
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  13. doveston

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    Mark Maguire i warned this board about that **** ages ago i got shot down.
     
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  14. Party Hull!

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    You're making the Egyption link there, maybe fair enough if you have evidence.

    What other player has been forced on him over his head?
     
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  15. doveston

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    what other players has he had to let go? you don't see how this club is been run?
     
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  16. Party Hull!

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    You said "another player foisted on him". Who was the other?

    Who are the players he has had to let go, against his will?
     
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  17. doveston

    doveston Active Member

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    are you on drugs? seriously.
     
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  18. Party Hull!

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    No. But I do like evidence. In an argument.
     
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  19. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

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    That post from Amber Nectar has summed up how I feel, though I'm too young to be able to draw comparisons with Lloyd.

    I said when they took over that I'd reserve judgment until they'd been here for 12-18 months. So far, I've mixed feelings.
     
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  20. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    So we havent signed anyone and no one's left apart from Bullard then?
     
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