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The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    Meanwhile, on Facebook...
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    Of course the usual defences of "It was a joke!" and "Freedom of speech REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" followed when the post was reported - only for the admin to shut down the page anyway, which may or may not have had something to do with the post being forwarded to the police.
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

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    The irony being that he's not Tommy.
    Stephen Christopher Lennon is probably too long for Twitter, though.
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    The fact they couldn't bring themselves to use JeSuisTommy because that sounds foreign is quite amusing too...
     
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  5. vimhawk

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    I see the head of the Parole Board has been hung out to dry, sorry "resigned". He was on the radio this morning explaining that he was effectively sacked. The head of the PB did not have any control over the decision in the case that got him fired. He's basically had to take responsibility for what others under him have done. This is I suppose correct thing to have happened, although it would be nice if MPs held themselves up to the same degree of responsibility. The ex-head also said that there were mistakes by other departments too, but clearly thought that the PB were being hung out to dry, presumably to offset the ire of the public / media. My main point is that whichever government figure told him to resign (Justice Secretary?) then they had better hold themselves up to the same level of scrutiny.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    The obvious candidates are either...
    David Gauke, Justice Secretary
    David Lidington, Minister for the Cabinet Office and Justice Secretary between 11th June 2017 and 8th January 2018 (Worboys release was signed on 4th January)
    Amber Rudd, Home Secretary
    The Dire Leader

    On the subject of the Dire Leader, she has said that post Britait she will bring the UK closer together...this being the same Dire Leader who has publicly supported her political secretary Stephen Parkinson after he publicly outed a whistleblower in a blatant attempt to intimidate him into silence, actions which I am sure will bring the disparate communities of Britain further together!
     
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  7. The RDBD

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    Suppose the Parole Board had a list of other alleged
    offences that were not those used in the conviction
    of Worboys, and the guy said "wasn't me" .

    Should they have released him ??

    If he had said there were other offences, he is hardly
    going to be released is he, given the nature of the
    offences.

    The PB decision should have been : release, subject
    to the CPS confirming very low confidence
    in successfully prosecuting any of the other alleged
    offences.

    I assume the CPS are going to try to prosecute some
    of those cases now ...
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    It's also worth remembering that, after the initial decision to release Warboys was announced, it was very quickly brought up how several of his victims whose cases weren't included in the original trial were willing to bring fresh prosecutions against him.

    It's worth pointing out that the QC for the original trial (who also brought up the additional cases) has stated that Gauke bears no small amount of responsibility for systematic failures that led to this situation - although, as pointed out above, Gaulke isn't the only one who bears responsibility as he wasn't Justice Secretary at the time Worboys was granted parole.
     
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  9. The RDBD

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    And this is the stupidity of it.

    If a review/decision date of D was given for
    Worboys, then the procedure should be
    that some weeks before D, the CPS should
    be doing a nominal reassessment of
    prosecuting any of those offences.

    That means contacting the alleged victims
    to tell them of potential prosecution etc,
    but not indicating the reason is due to a
    planned parole hearing for the accused.
     
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  10. bigsmithy9

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    Gosh. Politics stinks.Then you think"well there's always sports" to think about until you hear of someone rubbing a cricket ball with sandpaper.....and that someone says sorry.He loves the sport!
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

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    Today in the hate mines...

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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    I see our ex-chairman is doing his bit for proving that only complete dickheads who have no place in the political sphere can Apprentice judges...
     
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    Maybe One Hung Low's idea of WW3 would be a good idea after all.......start from scratch!
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

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    Proof that it's possible for two people to make complete dickheads of themselves while talking about the subject, yet do so for different reasons.

    First we have Fox News anchor Laura Ingraham taking to Twitter to mock Parkland survivor David Hogg for failing to reach the GPA in order to get accepted to UCLA, which for some strange reason backfired so badly that several advertisers cut ties with Fox News before Ingraham announced she would be taking a week-long holiday effective immediately - which of course has nothing to do with advertisers dropping Fox News like a hot, faeces-covered stone the second one of their employees started publicly bullying somebody who survived a high school shooting for not getting good enough grades.

    Then we have Ted Nugent describe them as "soulless" - this being the same Ted Nugent noted for being rabidly pro-gun, making countless sexist, racist and homophobic comments over the decades his career has mystifyingly lasted, who notably **** his pants to avoid going to Vietnam (yes, really), and has a penchant for having sex with underage girls, so the odds of him knowing what in the name of ungodly **** a soul actually is are as minimal as his album sales in the past five years.

    And bonus point, the NRAzi Party have settled on their latest smear of the Parkland kids: that every single one of them at the March for our Lives were actually bullying Nathan Cruz at school and the whole campaign is them crying foul because Cruz, the poor innocent victim in all of this, fought back - although they seem to have trouble comprehending that their own argument explicitly say that Cruz somehow managed to cold-bloodedly murder seventeen people who weren't even the ones he was "justified" in shooting. That, Ted Nugent, is what a soulless person looks like.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    Meanwhile, closer to home, Michael Gove is in a spot of bother with Guardian journalist Carole Cadwalladr...
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    Sarah Vine's probably writing her Mail hatchet job on Cadwalladr as we speak...
     
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    Aren't they lucky Maggie T is not about........?
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

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    Let's see how much of this list gets mentioned by the BBC by May 3rd (cribbed from Matt Thomas)

    Abuse & Violence
    Coun Tom Davey - Multiple Abusive Facebook Messages
    Coun Chris Joannides Expelled - Comparing Muslim Women To Bin Bags
    Coun Gareth Compton Arrested - Said Muslim Should Be Stoned To Death
    MP James Heappey - Told Schoolgirl To **** Off Back To Scotland
    Coun Margaret Bassett Suspended - Offensive Online Messages
    Coun Val Roberts Suspended - Offensive Social Media Comments
    Coun Ken Hawkins Suspended - Suggesting Hanging Grenfell Activists
    Coun Leonard Fulcher Fined £620 - Twice Threatening To Kill Council Staff
    Coun Penny Jackman Guilty Of Hitting A Pensioner - Fails To Pay £70k Costs
    Coun Brian Coleman Fined £270 - Assault On Female Cafe Owner
    Coun Jon Herbert Fined £1315 - Two Counts Of Common Assault
    Coun Douglas Hellier-Laing Jailed 3 Years - Beating His Wife With A Mallet
    Coun Asif Ayub Jailed 5 Months - Assaulting Ex Partner Five Times
    Coun Thomas Monument Fined £485 - Punching & Head-Butting Ex Partner
    Coun Harvey Jennings Suspended - Charged With Assaulting Ex Wife
    Coun Ian Carr Resigns - Street Brawl With Fellow Councillor
    Coun Chris Humphries Suspended - 5 Counts of Mistreating Staff
    Coun David Turtle - Charged With Murdering His Wife
    Coun Stephen Canning Suspended - Allegations Of An Assault On An MPs Aide
    MP Craig Whittaker Arrested - Accused Of Assaulting His Son
    MP Philip Davies - Accused Of Physically & Verbally Attacking An Interviewer
    Coun Alan Mellins - suggested "Execute them" when asked about local travellers

    Sexual Assault
    Coun George Lord Jailed 4 Years - Multiple Sexual Assaults
    Coun Martin Fisher Jailed Twice - Sex Offences & Breaching Court Orders
    Coun Allan Vizor Jailed 6 Months - Sexual Assaulting A Man
    Coun David Burcombe - Guilty of Sexual Assault
    Coun Robert Benson Fined £200 - Sex Act In Public

    Fraud
    Coun Mark O'Keeffe Jailed 18 Months - Defrauding Clients of £70k
    Coun Daniel Smy Jailed 1 Year - Falsely Claiming £35k Expenses
    Coun Jezz Baker Jailed 1 Year - Taking Planning Application Bribe
    Coun Jim Speechley Jailed 18 Months – Planning Fraud To Increase Value Of His Land
    Coun Richard Smalley Jailed 2 Months - Faking Address
    Coun Johnathan Woodley-Shead Jailed 3 Years - Stealing £155k From Employers
    Coun John Morgan Jailed 5 Years - Stealing £150k From A Pensioner
    Coun Jeanette Mann Jailed 15 Months - Defrauding £20k From 2 Pensioners
    Parl Candidate Ben Pickering Jailed 6 Years - £5m Property Fraud
    Coun Candidate Cencizham Cerit Jailed 12 Months - Electoral Fraud
    Southport Treasurer Paul Wilding Jailed 21 Months - £48k Fraud
    Coun Michael Mills Jailed 2 Years - Claiming £21k Of Late Wife’s Pension
    Former MP Bob Spink 6 Month Jail Suspended - Electoral Fraud
    Coun Monika Juneja 14 Month Jail Suspended - Forgery
    Coun George Ringrow 4 Month Jail Suspended - £32k Benefits Fraud
    Treasurer Barbara Hare 2 Year Jail Suspended - £130k Fraud
    Coun David Stansfield Expelled - £4000 Benefit Fraud
    Activist John Hall Fined £1000 - Election Fraud
    Coun Peter Lawless Fined £400 - £5000 Benefit Fraud
    Coun Chris Boothby Guilty - £1500 Benefit Fraud
    Coun Tony Ramsden Jailed 10 Months - Breaching Bankruptcy Laws
    Coun Robert Payne Jailed 2 Years - £91k Fraud
    Lord Taylor Jailed 12 Months - Expenses Fraud
    Coun Phillip Brown Jailed 12 Months - £50k Fraud And Theft
    MP Craig MacKinley - Facing Charges For Election Fraud
    Policy Forum Director Hannah David - Police Investigation Into £13m Fraud
    Coun David Richard Barton - Accused of Money Laundering & Multi Million Fraud
    Coun Simon King Suspended - £1500 Excessive Travel Expense Claim
    Coun Kerri Harold Fined £600 - Breaching Planning Enforcement Notice

    Historical Fraud
    MP Jeffrey Archer Jailed 4 Years - Perjury
    MP Jonathan Aitken Jailed 18 Months - Perjury
    Lord Conrad Black Jailed 6.5 Years - Fraud
    Lord Hanningfield Jailed 9 Months - Expenses Fraud

    Racism
    Coun Gerry Forsbury
    MP Anne Marie Morris
    Coun Robert Fraser
    Lord Dixon-Smith
    Coun Peter Edwards
    MP George Gardiner
    MP John Townend
    Coun Booby Good - Nazi Tattoo
    Coun Alastair Majury Suspended - Various Sectarian, Racist, & Sexists Tweets
    Coun Rosemary Carroll Suspended - Sharing Racist Facebook Post
    Coun Nick Harrington Suspended - Racist Twitter Post
    Coun Jeff Potts Suspended - Sending & Retweeting Racist Tweets
    Coun Ray Bray Suspended - Abusive Islamophobic Tweets
    Coun Michael Watson Suspended - Endorsing Multiple Racist Tweets
    Coun Alan Pearmain Suspended - Diane Abbot Racist Tweet
    Coun Andy Dransfield Suspended - Racist & Sexist Comments To A Firefighter
    Coun Jim Marsh Suspended - Racist Comment On Online Petition
    Coun Robert Davies Suspended - Racist Comments
    Coun Bob Frost Suspended - Racist Comments
    Coun David Whittingham Expelled - Racist Comments
    Oxford Tory Union Member Vitus Van Rij - Tells Women “Go Back To Washing The Dishes”
    MEP Daniel Hannan - “People Unsettled By Barack Obama’s Exotic Background”
    Coun John Cherry resigned - racial profiling of schoolchildren
    Activist and former Secretary for Coulsdon South Conservatives Stephen Lees - said all muslims should be "expelled" and every mosque demolished
    Coun Jim Buckley - racist tweet about Sadiq Khan
    Coun candidate David Bishop - tweeted "It's good to be anti-Islam"

    Historical Racism
    MP Patrick Mercer "Black Soldiers Idle And Useless"
    MP Boris Johnson "Africans Piccaninnies With Watermelon Smiles"
    MP John Townend "Immigrants Were Undermining Society"
    MP Oliver Letwin "Black People Have Bad Moral Attitudes"
    Coun Bob Fahey - Racial Slur Against Asian Councillor
    Coun Simon Benson - “Too Many P***s In His Town”
    Coun Peter Hobbins - “No Candidates With Ordinary English Names”
    Coun Bob Allen (Again) - Compares Asian Councillor To Gorilla
    Coun Shaun Smith arrested for racist incident at Manchester Airport
    MP Norman Tebbit - numerous racist remarks against Asian immigrants

    Antisemitism
    Coun Candidate Guizabeen Afsar Suspended - Anti-Semitism
    MP David Wilshere compared expenses scandal to treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany, with references to gas chambers
    UCL Conservative Society - investigated for antisemitism, islamophobia and racism
    Coul for Bishop's Stortford - posted antisemetic tweet

    Sectarianism
    Coun Richard Nelson (pic with ‘friend’) - Discussed Shooting Catholics
    Coun Neil Graham Suspended - Sharing Sectarian Facebook Posts

    Nazism
    Jacob Rees Mogg Supporter Paul Townsley - Hit Woman & Dressed As A Nazi
    Tory Student George Wright Who Campaigned With Amber Rudd - Doing Nazi Salute
    MP Aiden Burley - Nazi Stag Do
    Coun Mike Gardner Deselected - Dressing Up As Hitler
    Coun Matt Snape Resigned - Sending Hitler Tweet
    Coun Jonathan Farmer 21 Month Jail Suspended - Possession of Nazi Firearm

    Homophobia
    Coun Rachael Hogg - Accused Of Transphobia
    Coun Joao Parreria - Accused Of Transphobia
    MP Roger Gale - Blames Female Journalists For MP Sex Scandals
    Coun Ben Harris-Quinney Suspended - Speaking At Anti-Gay Conference
    Coun Ken Gregory Suspended 6 Months - Homophobic Attack
    Activate - WhatsApp chat about how they should gas "homo chavs" and "run medical experiments on them"

    Sexism
    Coun Tina Knight Suspended – “Sex Assaults at Presidents Club Were Hilarious”

    Child Abuse
    Coun David Whittaker Jailed 6 Years - Multiple Child Sexual Offences
    Coun Stephen Holmes Jailed 10 Months – Indecent Child Images
    Coun William Barber Jailed 14 Years - Abusing 8 Children
    Coun Peter Stidworthy Jailed 21 Months - String Of Child Sex Offenses
    Coun Richard Willis Jailed 16 Months - Sharing Child Abuse Images
    Coun John George Reaney Jailed 16 Months - Sex With 14 Year Old Boy
    Coun Bob Bate Jailed Twice 3 Years & 9 Months – Indecent Child Images
    Coun Arthur Hodgson Jailed 27 Months - Sexual Assaults On Children
    Coun Julian Mineur 3 Year Community Order - Indecent Child Images
    Coun Andrew Lamont 6 Month Jail Suspended – Indecent Child Images
    Coun Ben Redsell 3 Year Supervision Order - Sexual Assault & Indecent Images
    Coun Ian McKellar 3 Year Supervision Order - Indecent Child Images
    Coun Heathcliffe Bowen Jailed 5 Years - Grooming Boys
    Coun Matthew Sephton Jailed 33 Months - Distributing Child Abuse Images
    Coun John Hawthorn 4 Month Jail Suspended - Possessing Child & Animal Abuse Images
    Coun Matthew Lock - Guilty Of 19 Child Sexual Offences
    Coun Neil Thorneywork 2 Year Jail Suspended - Indecent Child Images & Theft
    Coun Michael Jamieson Suspended & Charged - Indecent Child Images

    Bullying
    Coun Patrick Rochford Suspended - Bullying and Intimidation Of Fellow Councillor
    Coun Geoff Driver - Arrested Conspiracy To Pervert Justice & Intimidation
    Youth Coordinator Mark Clarke - Accused Of Bullying Linked To Suicide

    Selling Illegal Goods
    MEP Tom Spencer Fined £600 - Smuggling Drugs & Pornography
    Coun Wayne Whittle Fined £2500 - Selling Counterfeit Goods
    Coun Donal Hassett Jailed 33 Months - Part Of A Drug Gang

    Drink Driving
    Coun Peter Le Maistre Fined £170 Banned 30 Months - Refusing To Provide A Specimen
    Coun Adrian Hardman Fined £350 Banned 16 Months
    Coun Peter Whittaker Fined £1100 Banned 12 Months - Causing 3 Car Crash
    Coun Ian White Fined £440 Banned 12 Months
    Coun Stuart Towner - Affair With Sixth Former & Banned 20 Months Drink Driving
    Coun Shaun Smith (again) resigned - failing to provide a sample after a drink drive arrest

    General ****ishness
    Coun Dom Peacock Suspended - Said He Would Donate Steam Of His Piss To Jo Cox Fund
    Coun Paul Dakers Jailed - Refusing To Pay Council Tax
    Coun Jonny Bucknell Fined £32k – Landlord Providing Uninhabitable Accomodation
    Tory Student Ronald Coyne - Burnt £20 Note In Front Of Homeless Man
    Coun Ian Tait Fined £175 - Obstructing Police
    Blackpool Party - Suspend Own Councillor While In Hospital With Collapsed Lung
    Coun David Meikle - accused SNP of antisemitism for opposing Israeli occupation of Palestinian land
    Activate - WhatsApp chat describe the poor as "vermin"

    Historical ****ishness
    MP Margaret Thatcher - branded Nelson Mandela a "terrorist"
    Conservative Research Department trainee David Cameron went on jolly to South Africa paid for by a firm lobbying against imposition of sanctions against apartheid regime
     
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    Brexit is going well with already all these DZxLzYWX4AERr_r.jpg
     
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  19. The RDBD

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    I assume there are kindred lists for Labour and the
    Lib Dems compiled with a similar degree of
    diligence and widely known about ...
     
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