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Religion is Bullsh*t, Get over it, and support science.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Kyle?, Aug 18, 2011.

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Are Gods Real?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. I've seen Led Zep live, therefore, God's do exist.

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  1. Donkey Toon

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    No worries <ok>

    I take your point. IMO anybody on the fence reading that debate would have regarded you as the clear winner because of the reasons you already stated and if that helps then it was not wasted effort. :)

    He already said he believes in djinn! You may have heard me laugh from there! <laugh>
     
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  2. RebelBhoy

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    Religious types always answer that. through scriptures or personal explanation there is an answer. I don't know what will satisfy you as an answer. I haven't been reading this thread.
     
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  3. Donkey Toon

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    That's the one "god sends these things to test us" ... <doh>
     
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  4. Jip Jaap Stam

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    Sorry Rebs but no amount of reading will tell me why a child has to be born with an incurable illness that will affect him/her grievously for the rest of his/her life.
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

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    I was happy to try and conduct a rational discussion sensibly, without the prospect of winners or losers, but that's a little hard when the other person admits to making no attempt to understand your points.
    Didn't watch the clip, doesn't accept any alternative views and pre-supposes views upon those that disagree with his beliefs.
    Ridiculous.
     
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  6. Donkey Toon

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    Absolutely. Like I said your patience was outstanding, i'd have snapped in no time in the face of such obtuse debating and pre-conceptions. I am left to the assumption that he had more interest in preaching than discussing.
     
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  7. RebelBhoy

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    I never said it would. I am saying that the question has an answer and I am surprised that nobody has offered you one ever.
     
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  8. Bhoy From Brum

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    Ask Hoddle <ok>
     
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  9. terrypaine

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    "I could go on forever, if need be". May God or science prevent that.
     
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  10. Jip Jaap Stam

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    I meant answer satisfactorily.
     
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  11. Jip Jaap Stam

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    His answer is probably more likely than most.
     
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  12. RebelBhoy

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    A scholar wouldn't give those answers.
     
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  13. RebelBhoy

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    I dunno. JJS, have you asked a scholar?
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

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    Yeah, that's what I thought.
    Shame.
     
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  15. RebelBhoy

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    It sounds a fairly basic response from a scholar.

    It isn't a question that is going to convince people of the absence of a God, nor is any answer going to be a satisfactory enough response if they don't want one.
     
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  16. RebelBhoy

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    The one you believe....or none as the case may be.

    A morality isn't imposed, rather adherence to certain principles is a desired state of being.
     
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  17. RebelBhoy

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    Not at all.
    I could cite scripture, but that would bore the arse off you, as well as being a pointless exercise to cite scripture about a being that you don't believe in.
    The gist of it is that the preference is for you to behave in such a fashion if you are able. Of course different folk will put a different spin on it, but that is how it reads.
    The eternal damnation stuff comes from the fear generated by the mans imposition of that morality through organised religion rather than the acceptance of a moral guideline.
     
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  18. RebelBhoy

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    I should add, I couldn't cite the exact passage off the top of my head. I ain't a nut.
     
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    No probably not, from a christian perspective, celebration of the eucharist is very much a communal thing. That is the whole point of it to gather together to celebrate Jesus dying on the cross for our sins. For the Jews, observation of the sabbath and celebrating communally(family and synagogue) is absolutely central to observance of their faith. Understanding that as humans we are corruptable (be there a God or no God) you have to accept the human failings of any organised religion but temper that with the notion that congregating together and being a part of something is an integral part of that celebration.

    without organised religion, a vital part of a belief set is missing for those that believe in that version of God.
     
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  20. BH1972RFC

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    "Webel In On NOT606 Allday Shockeroonie"

    For such a "rich and educated" person, too <doh>

    <webel=baronvonmunchausenmuir>
     
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