Its never occurred to me that he was a threat to national security mate. His links with reactionary groups are well known. He had links with the PIRA and the PLA well before our government did at the time. That now all looks like he was a visionary under those circumstances. But he was outside of the game being played at the time. The game between the PIRA and the government. And that game had to be played through to the end. The fact he was undermining the governments hand at the time doesn't count for **** now. I bet the security services aren't keen on him taking charge in a few years right now though.
Mate, every Govt who says that 'we don't negotiate with terrorists' holds secret talks with 'terrorists'. Because ultimately dialogue is the only way to solve these issues. Corbyn has had the balls to do it and admit to doing it, but the only reason he had to do it this way was because he was on the outside as a Labour backbencher, whilst Thatcher and her people were meeting with the IRA and PLA behind closed doors.
I just googled it mate. I don't know whether its true or not. But it doesn't matter whether its true or not. Its what the mainline press will portray.
The press have been kicking 7 bells out of him for three years now. Including the Guardian and to a lesser extent the BBC, both of whom might have been expected to at least give him a fair hearing. He's shown remarkable resilience so far.
That's the issue really mate. The media are more interested in trying to paint him as a 'terrorist sympathiser' than a negotiator.
I agree with almost everything there mate. You don't negotiate with your friends, you negotiate with your enemies. The government had links with the PIRA throughout the 80s. My point was Corbyn sticking his nose in while the govt were talking to the PIRA just confused and debilitated the negotiations. Maybe thats not Corbyn's fault. He probably couldn't have known the govt were talking to the PIRA. But he was incredibly naive to think that the government werent doing anything at all
Corbyn’s problem is that he’s an appeaser. He thinks that by ‘reasoning’ with any group, no matter how far out there they are, that a peaceful solution can be reached. He’s wrong, of course. Groups like ISIS there is no reasoning with. You destroy them or they’ll destroy you!
He certainly has. I think that maybe say's more about the weakness of the Labour Parliamentary Party. But thats just my opinion mate.
I agree Piskie. I just happen to have had that view for many years now. I didn't need today's press to convince me of that.
Fair enough. I'm off to bed anyway. My football team is as leaderless and clueless as my country seems to be, and arguing about either won't change anything
I agree mate. You can't always negotiate a lasting peace. Some groups, like ISIS didn't care about negotiation. It was their way or death. The only way to deal with true fanatics of their ideology is to kill them. Everyone.
Pretty sure that Corbyn would agree that there's no negotiating with ISIS. But he hit the nail on the head by highlighting how funds and resources flow into the coffers of ISIS through western and middle eastern 'allies' that supposedly are fighting them, but at the same time (indirectly) arm them.
Years and years of forming an opinion mate. Don't make me right. But I don't think I'm wrong. G'night Piskie
Fair enough fella My personal opinion is that he's done nothing that any Cabinet minister hasn't already done with regard to speaking with 'terrorists'. But Corbyn represents a massive challenge to the corporate world and the status quo, so they will use whatever they can to smear him.
one of the most ridiculous concepts I have heard of was the charge of being prematurely anti fascist that Marcarthy used to blacklist left wing people in the USA. Your comments about Corbyn in relaion the talking to the IRA remind me of that.
