Erm not really .I said he's a top 4 defender in comparison to all the CB cross there is in the league (Inc the dross in the current top 4)
If we take into account there are 8 starting CBS in the top 4 teams. Name me 8 that are deffo better than him
Ahem... I've a hint here. None are from Chelsea right now. One of the8 is Matip by definition. Thats said. Better than Matip Alderweireld Vertonghen Sanchez (maybe) Bailly Kompany Stones Otamendi this season Vvd Not a hard challenge
Ssnchez? Blimey, that’s pushibg it. Guy looks like he’s never kicked a football before when ever I’ve seen him. Walking red card
just perhaps. i kind of agree with you but the london media love a spurs player so he must be better innit
stones is winning the title in a canter under pep. last season otamendi looked dog ****. maybe all matip needs is a decent manager
Lovren is one of the worst defenders to play for Liverpool. There’s a reason why Lyon were shocked that they managed to receive £8m when they sold him to Soton. The guy is a walking accident combined with the fact he’s completely deluded in thinking he’s a decent defender who has just been unlucky. I can’t wait for this guy to **** off from this club because along with the likes of Mignolet, he’s a loser who brings those around him down to his level.
Matip is decent but nothing special - he was just better than what we had previously. Now we have VVD, fans can now see what a good defender looks like. Same will happen when Keita comes in and people will see what a quality attacking midfielder looks like. I’m pretty sure we’re after a starting CB this summer. It would be criminal not to.
Don't worry think that ones in the bag. I liked how you couldn't answer my question though . You say I didn't take your bait mate
With you so spectacularly missing the point, I didn't feel it warranted the effort. You obviously watch much more than I do and know better than all the Liverpool fans on here bar Gonzo
yes because that's exactly what i said you brought in the watching him far more regular argument. I haven't said i watch more or less than you except that i've seen enough to have my own opinion of him. It's also funny that no one has come out with a list of 8 CBs in the PL that are significantly better than him either. Also you forgot about Jimmy, he'll be fuming that you think he thinks that matip is on par with lovren
The discussion (between you and I) is purely about Matip. Jimmy (who hated Lovren before he joined Liverpool btw) as said Matip isn't good enough but nice twist attempt. RE; the eight CBs... you do realise that you are using eight better CBs that play for our rivals right? And that since we are talking about a top six club, it is incredibly unlikely for the other fourteen sides to have better players? I also pointed out how **** the PL is when it comes to defending. You comparing Matip to other PL defenders is like signing someone and claiming they're good because they are better than who we've already got despite that existing player being absolute dog turd! Matip is slow in both pace and reaction time, he's not strong, he's not great in the air and he's not great at reading the game. I'd say a CB should excel in one of these areas. Matip can do most to a acceptable level but he's simply not good enough at any of them to be a top top player. I never said he was ****, I said he wasn't of the standard we should be aiming for and that he'd make a good squad option (same for Lovren).
