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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Nads, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. CountyDurhamMackem

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    Jo£y Barton. 75k a week is absolutely ridiculous.
     
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  2. Chappaz

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    Are you for real? <doh> Hands down one of the stupidest and most uninformed things I've ever read.

    They're people training for hours and hours a day all week, then running miles and miles during a high intensity 90 minutes. They're peak athletes, and performing at that level means they will easily need double or even triple the number of calories for energy compared to a normal man. Fasting during the day will destroy their fuel stores and mean they just don't have any energy to burn.

    Believe me. It's hard. I've went to the gym in the morning without eating first and you just have absolutely no energy. No carbs to burn. Feel like ****. All EPL footballers take in high carb meals just before matches just so they have the carbs and energy available to last the game. Tiote and others can't even eat at all during the day, nevermind that.

    Please, go and learn about sports nutrition before you even begin to comment on ramadan effecting performances.
     
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  3. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Bollocks.
     
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  4. Tiote's Witch Doctor

    Tiote's Witch Doctor Well-Known Member

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    Even if you are right about Rhamadan which I'm sure you arent, cut that bit out and read the rest of the post, still stands.
     
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  5. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Believe me,,,from an an milarty man you sound like a right cockend here...........

    calories....hard work........the best nutrition in the the world........

    get a ****ing grip on reality man........just think if they had to work for a living.
     
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  6. Bigjohnsafc

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    How can someone be this deluded? I didn't think it was possible?

    Tiote and cabaye one of the best cm partnerships? Better than lampard essien? Gerrard Adam, yaya toure dejong, Anderson fletcher, diaby wilshere, Huddleston jenas.

    You are an idiot, clueless
     
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  7. Chappaz

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    Football players have very low body fat, so they have no fat stores.

    The basal metabolic rate of an athlete will be at least 2,000 calories, that's the basic calories their body needs to operate.

    During fasting, they will be taking in less than that, and because they aren't eating during the day, their glycogen (carb stores) will be very low. When you take in calories lower than your BMR, your body slows down it's metabolic processes to cope, so your heart rate, metabolism, fitness, aerobic ability, anarobic ability and muscular energy all diminish.

    In a football match a player can burn 500-1000 calories.

    Taking all of that into account, I really don't know where you expect the raw energy to come from. It's pure logic.
     
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  8. MackemsRule

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    Double bollocks.
     
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  9. Chappaz

    Chappaz Active Member

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    ONE OF you muppet. All of the top 6 teams probably have better CM partnerships, but outside of that, we could be at the top when Cabaye develops further and Tiote is back at his best.

    I'd still consider that 'one of the best'
     
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  10. MrRAWhite

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    That's where I come in...<whistle>
     
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  11. Chappaz

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    Let's cut through the 'Rargh I'm a big tough bloke I don't need energy I'll just push through it' crap Commachio.

    Your body needs fuel. It's logic which can't be denied. Bodily processes are lowered if you aren't getting the energy into your body. Footballers train for hours a day, just like any professional athlete in any sport, whether it's cycling, running, swimming or whatever. Michael Phelps the swimmer takes in 11,000 calories per day (almost 5 times more than the average man) and he hasn't got a scrap of fat on him.

    A pro athlete not being able to eat or replenish their carbs during the day will severely effect body performance. Someone like Tiote can try and combat that with his mind all he wants, but his body itself just can't keep up. If you honestly dispute that then I'm just gobsmacked.
     
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  12. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United Staff Member

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    Tiote's good in the middle, but he doesn't seem to me to get up and down enough. The equalizer against the Arse was a case in point. Everyone pushing forward and he picks up a headed clearance coming in late from deep. Roy Keane (the player) was just as destructive in the middle, but was up and down the park all day, even if he was a **** back then.

    As for this calorie counting ****e, I have a degree in Biochemistry (get me) and I know the answer, but I ain't telling...
     
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  13. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    boo ho ,sorry chappaz your sounding like a twat........highly trained over-paid well looked after, spoerts nutrilionsts etc...its not the ****ing dark ages,

    get them up a hill with the ****ing taliban shooting at them, they'd soon ****ing run and find energy....
     
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  14. MackemsRule

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    Thought it was 2000 calorie intake. :p
     
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  15. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    not bothered mate about all your ****e talking mate, sy=tick up for these ****ing prima donnas all you want,

    dont even try and preach to me about nutrition and fitness you ****ing mug.
     
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  16. Chappaz

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    Please do.

    It's the conflict between religion and sports nutritionists. The nutritionists can sort out a perfect fine-tuned diet to get all of the macro and micro nutrients a players body needs. However, if the player follows ramadan and refuses to eat during the day, there's really nothing they can do. There's no nutritional magic which circumvents that the body needs fuel.

    And getting shot at by the taliban is adrenaline. I'd confidently say there's more of it pumping through your body in a life/death situation compared to a football match.
     
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  17. MackemsRule

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    ****ing hell you're boring no wonder no one will talk to you on your own board.

    (Jesus I hope Syd's transfer of him falls through.)
     
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  18. vauxsamson

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    <applause>

    Well said mate, but it'll do no good, Little fellas the font of all knowledge.
     
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  19. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United Staff Member

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    Nah - off doon the pub for London Pride. I won't tell you about the calories in a good sesh either <yikes>
     
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  20. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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