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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by humanbeingincroydon, Apr 16, 2015.

  1. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    Not for the likes of me, I fear. I'm not nearly rich enough and my Lemmy style white creepers and leather jacket would clash a bit too much with the other cheese afficionados.

    I will have to bring my own cheese. So, if you're standing next to some huge 'rocker type' bloke who smells of Dolce Latte and water biscuits, you'll know who it is...
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    More importantly, have they banned Edam due to it being in the colours of the Woolwich Nomads?
     
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  3. deedub93

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    They could peel it first.
     
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  4. paultheplug

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    No Red Leicester either, on two counts. Edam is OK if it is naked
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Surely one count, given the number of our ex-players wearing that cheese's colours for Hull?
     
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  7. Citizen Kane

    Citizen Kane Danny Rosebud

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    The article is spot on. This is a watershed moment for the club. I think we'll be fine for a year or two as the novelty of the new stadium will get bums on seats but after that we'll either need to be winning major trophies and reaching the farther reaches of the CL on an annual basis or the club will have to swallow some humble pie and lower the prices.
     
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  9. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I'd say that it's a pretty long way from spot on. Large bits of it are just simplistic ****ing nonsense...

    "If football was merely a business, it would have died long ago. It has sustained through tradition, through shared beliefs and a celebration of a club’s distinct culture."

    This was once pretty true but has long since not been the case. Tony Evans is a Scouser and given to excessively emotive bollocks. Money has ruled football for decades. Nearly every club in this country is owned by someone from a different country. Are they in it for the distinct culture, Tony? Just look at when the games are played and club's ****ing off to play abroad at the drop of a hat. Every club sells a bit of of their soul on a weekly basis in myriad different ways. Most grounds are a shadow of their former selves. Clubs are businesses first and foremost because that enables them to be successful. The issue is how that affects football in this country in the long term.

    "This was an opportunity to cement supporters’ ties to the club as well as increasing revenue. All it would have taken was to shave a few pounds off the cost of each seat."

    I can promise Tony that shaving a few pounds off the ticket price wasn't/isn't going to make any meaningful difference in a positive fashion and could probably make things worse at this point. We're talking lots of money here. £100 extra per seat is just under £6m a year. Whilst we pay off an enormous debt on the stadium build and construct the hotel, housing, extreme sports centre, maybe...just maybe we need that extra money to keep our team together?

    "Perhaps supporters will be happy if their cash goes towards player wages or transfer fees, though there is no guarantee of this happening."

    This takes the ****ing biscuit...I mean, it's not like the club has something to spend the additional income on apart from players. You know, something expensive with lots of interest payable on it. something that cost hundreds of millions of pounds of borrowed money.....No, no, I'm coming up empty. Let's infer that Levy's going to use it to buy Joe another yacht and then burn the rest, rather than pay off the second largest debt in European football, after Manchester United.

    It is hard to escape the feeling that Spurs decided on the price without taking into account the value of the people who have invested their lives in the club.

    Yep, that's what successful football businessmen do. They **** off their supporters for no good reason and without thinking. Spurs may or may not have struck the correct balance, we shall see but this will have been extremely well researched and debated. To suggest otherwise is childishly ridiculous.

    I'm torn on the pricing issue. It will probably decrease the number of games that I attend or the category of those games but I always believed that would be the case. I believe that the next decade, more than any other, will decide the future of our club for decades to come. Just as Scoular's 80's disaster is ruling our current status, If we get an NFL franchise, continue to make the CL and sell the housing development a premium prices, we will make the European Super League when it comes...because it's coming. If we drop back, we'll have missed the boat forever and that's what ENIC see, that this article just ignores. ENIC haven't done it for no reason. It's a big gamble. The much more interesting article is what they're risking and why?

    As long as the owners continue to re-invest the money back into striving to improve the club's future and aiming for the stars, I'll wear it. When I'm paying so that Joe Lewis can take an enormous dividend, I'll be on the ramparts shouting for his head.

     
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  10. KingHotspur

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  11. deedub93

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    I expect to see some big signings this summer. I think there is a large possibility we will see Bale and Modric return. The odds on Bale returning were slashed a few weeks ago and bookies are seldom wrong. Furthermore rat boy has recently started declaring his undying love for THFC. Angling for a return? I also think it's now or never for Sessegnon and we might actually 'push the boat out' and sign a proper 2nd striker. Yes a few will leave, but that will balance things out a bit.

    A successful first season in the new stadium is a must, Enic must realise that, I'm guessing Levy has done the math and priced the seats accordingly. Success means a full stadium, challenging for nothing means a half empty stadium, Just look at the other end of the Seven Sisters. They only need to throw in a bit of porn and they could become the 'new spammers'.
     
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  12. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    It'd be interesting to know how much they still owe us on the Bale transfer. I'll bet that that they're lagging behind on payments.
     
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    A 4 yr payment schedule means they have probably paid up.
    Said payment schedule is the reason for contempt to
    Bale (his last week tantrum meant Levy could not do to
    Madrid what he did to Citeh on Walker) .
     
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  14. The RDBD

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    It is dangerous for human consumption.
    For as everyone knows, it is the most
    cheesiest cheese ... in the world. Ever.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    Goddamn it, now I'm going to have to try and find the post where I typed out the juicier details of the contract when it was leaked...

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  16. I’m pretty much of the same opinion on events, so thanks for saving me the effort :emoticon-0148-yes:

    Fully appreciate that what appears to some to be a relatively small sum in increase may impact massively on the opportunities for great supporters to attend games, but taking into consideration the increased capacity, the total number of available seats at lower levels still seems good. This is particularly the case in the South Stand.

    Bottom line for me is that the club has built in the right way over the past decade, the Board/owners have developed a plan and with a couple of exceptions have got it spot on. (Not reinvesting at the right level on the pitch in 2011 being an exception). I have no reason to think that the stadium pricing has not been thought through with the same care and consideration.

    Time will tell.......
     
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    Just been observing the live cams and the roof lift cables look like they have been done around most of the ground.

    Just a word on the season tickets - I can safely say that i will probably never have an opportunity to ever purchase a valuable (mainly because of my geographical location) THFC season ticket so those that are a bit cheesed off at the prices (in most cases justifiably) be thankful you can. My grandfather was a ticket holder throughout the Nicholson years and i sometimes was able to join him at a match. I watch with excitement the building of our great stadium which some thought would never happen. COYS!!!
     
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    I hope it is (stays) The Lane. Then there are plenty of rhymes available for re-worded songs, such as “Kane” and “scores again” and “remain”..........
     
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  19. audrey.s.thackeray

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    I really hope you’re right!!!!
     
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  20. Citizen Kane

    Citizen Kane Danny Rosebud

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    Have been thinking about the ticketing for the past few days. Taking into account the enormous costs of the stadium I guess I have made my peace with the costs IF that means is justified by the ends of paying off our debts asap.

    The alternative (the Woolwich model) is in my opinion far worse. Selling our best players and replacing them with overrated dross is a far worse alternative and will only end up at the same place our neighbours are at now: thousands of empty seats.

    The true litmus test of Levy's moral compass will be the decisions he makes as and when the bulk of the debt is cleared. Will ticket prices continue to rise? Will they fall? Will they at least be frozen?
    Where Arsenal have gone so badly wrong is that their tickets continued to increase years after they were back in black, but the prices simply aren't reflective of what is taking place on the pitch.

    The novelty of what is a state of the art stadium will put bums on seats for the initial 3-4 seasons i reckon. That is financial crunch time where it becomes clear just how viable the NFL partnership deal is, and whether or not our new levels of ambition are matched by on-pitch achievements. If we can navigate that period sensibly, my gut instinct is that prices will at the very least be frozen for the foreseeable future.
     
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