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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 9th March)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Mar 9, 2018.

  1. hemase

    hemase Well-Known Member

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    Not sure I could stand the pain of going through that and then watching the current lot.
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Safe to say that not any of them would make the cut and only Saiz would merit a brief consideration.
     
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  3. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Can't argue with anything you have said there
     
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  4. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Neither could I. But for appearance sake I did try.
     
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  5. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Hamase. Really well said. I loved the way Wilko would lay his stall out with the wing backs overlapping and our guys in the middle bossing the midfield. Good times.
     
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  6. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Surely these are baps.
     
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  7. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    No these are baps.

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  8. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    • Alan Biggs: Freefalling Sheffield Wednesday could be forced to wheel and deal as they face up to realities of FFP
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    Owls manager Jos Luhukay.
    Why should the fix for a football problem be throwing more money at it? Sometimes that is part of the problem in the first place; if it is thrown in the wrong direction and especially if there is no money coming back.

    Right now there are people throwing their arms up in despair over the future of Sheffield Wednesday. Admittedly it looks far from good. Nowhere near as healthy as it should after all the money “thrown at it.” And it’s just as well there are consistently losing teams in the bottom three as a freefalling Wednesday – one win in 13 league matches – look incapable of saving themselves at the moment.

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    Despair for Owls' Morgan Fox......Pic Steve Ellis
    But in my view, trying to extract something constructive from the mess of this season, there’s no reason to be stampeded into panic if it’s on the basis of the near £21m loss of the last financial year or speculation over embargoes on spending. Providing lessons are learned. And providing the club acts fast on turning over the squad this summer, hopefully ahead of any potential restrictive measure. The bottom line is that, with anything like a clean bill of health, Wednesday still have some damn good players. You don’t need me to name them or state that several of the injured would walk into most Championship sides. Or repeat recent articles about a depth of young talent that wouldn’t have surfaced in other circumstances.


    For all the problems that have produced a season of desperate under-achievement, you’d struggle to find too many managers below the Premier League who wouldn’t fancy taking over that little lot. Who wouldn’t rub their hands at the challenge of reshaping such a jigsaw, taking out some pieces in a swap for new ones and also leaving less pieces to puzzle over by pushing some under-achievers through the door.

    Not being able to add a marquee signing or two should not be the end of Wednesday’s world but the beginning of a new one. With good overall management. With expertise on trading. And that, for want of a better term, requires some good old fashioned “wheeling and dealing.”


    Good managers of the traditional hands-on variety create their own wealth by making a lot of a little. Sean Dyche, of Burnley, is perhaps the best modern example. Across the city, one current manager and two former ones have defied the arithmetical odds with their shrewdness.

    Relatively, in times bleaker than this, the Owls could point to the reigns of Paul Sturrock (inheriting good players from Chris Turner), Brian Laws and latterly Stuart Gray.

    One thing the current situation is not about is a lack of money or investment or ambition. Or of talent on the field. It’s about the skill of playing the hand. Wednesday still have a good deck assuming they stay up. Can they play the cards right in future after the failure of recent trading (or lack of) ?


    Whether Jos Luhukay is the man oversee the shake-up remains to be seen. He did not create the downward trajectory. On the other hand, currently he is failing to reverse it. Whoever is in charge of the team come the summer needs to be exactly that in my opinion. With the power and expertise to rearrange the dressing room furniture and shift it into gear.
     
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  9. southernwhite

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    <laugh>
     
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  10. MIGHTY

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    cant argue with that I have always said you are a very trying person <ok>
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Afternoon SW, we never seem to learn by our mistakes though
     
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    To me, the great teams of Revie and Wilkos age are almost a different club to me now. I can think of a few here that will disagree vehemently of course.Looking at the Wolves game, it barely feels like Leeds anymore. A bunch of mercenaries, owner, coach and players, clearly only in it for the money and none with any connection to the club. Unfortunately, thanks to sky money, most big clubs seem to be heading the same way.Sad to see
     
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    Revie/Wilko's teams were the height of excellence

    Now we play like a pub team
     
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  14. Jammy 07

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    Know what you mean Eire but what keeps me going is remembering the long fallow period we had between the Revie and the Wilkinson era's. We have all supported through some horrendously poor teams and owners who have suffered the wrath of the West Stand car park demonstrations. Nothing much has changed really as it was always ever thus.

    It's what makes the successes so sweet when they eventually arrive.

    To be honest if you took away the title that we won under Wilko then I would question the sanity and logic in supporting a team which gives you nothing. Now some may think those days are gone forever but to most the dream is still there and it's that hope and those memories which keep us going.

    MOT forever.
     
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  15. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Afternoon Eire. I cannot think of another championship team that played as well as Wolverhampton Wanderers did on Wednesday night. Yes, they told us apart but in all honesty I cannot think of one another championship club that they would not have destroyed. It has been a wasted season when you consider we have two or three exceptional players. Let's hope we can keep hold of them.
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Good afternoon Jammy. As the song goes, we've been through it all together, and we've had our ups and downs (ups and downs)
     
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    Hemese & 1964 <applause><applause><applause>

    As far as the cockney gobshyte goes why dont you look up LUFCDATA as he has everything you will ever need to see about our keeper.
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Hmmm, a Wum article from someone called Clive?
     
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