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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Thurs 8th Mar)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Mar 8, 2018.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning Everyone

    Wolves turned on the style last night, cruising to a 3-0 win at Elland Road; only the cross bar saved Leeds from further embarrassment.

    Jet's just hope Radrizzani was watching. Rad, this is what you need to get promoted. If they are unwilling to provide us with the tools, please step aside.




    What kind of opportunity does Heckingbottom need to turn things around?

    He can only deal with the cards he has; and currently he is using someone else's hand!

    It is now clear that the squad is nowhere goodenough for the play offs, let alone automatic promotion.




    Is it alright to leave a game early, if your team is getting stuffed, or should you stay until the bitter end?

    Are you someone who stays to the bitter end, no matter what?

    Does the team deserve your respect, if they are not putting the effort in?




    How did young Peacock - Farrell do last night. Should he stay in goal for the rest of the season?

    Which other youngsters would you like to see given an opportunity?

    The players which are obviously going to get released in the Summer - Is there any point playing them any more?
     
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  2. Doc

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    BPF did really well but as PH said we have a squad of attacking players who are useless at defending. Season is now over but in the On Topic thread I have posted the players we should keep. My opinion only

    The plan at the start between Tommy and Orta was to pick a squad of players who were able to keep the ball, pass it, move forward on the offence and harass and win it back. Playing from the keeper right through the team and backed with 4 strong defenders. Where its gone wrong in my humble opinion is that we are not Man City and Dont have Pep so we have a cheaper version that doesnt have the skillset or the head to fight when you realise your plans failed. The main issue is not having a couple of DMs to control play and that means our defence under pressure always. PH sorted bits out but them we get done by poor zonal marking at corners. The season is wrecked, many players have had their last chance, experimentation now to give some fringe players a go.
     
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  3. Nickwhite68

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    Morning elland only peacock Farrell and Dallas (first half) come out of last night with any credit. Really was men against boys, the number 15 for Wolves Bolly I think, took the piss all night. Not once did he have to run, just strolled around all night directing wolves and spraying 60 yard passes from one wing to the other.
    As I said in a thread a couple of days ago we are light years behind, not just wolves but all the other top 6 teams. Think it's sad that we now go to games expecting to lose but hoping we try and perform. How has it come to this?
    Has anyone else noticed when we concede a goal all our players to a man turn to the half way line put their heads down and not one of them says anything to another. I walked out on 80th minute and decided that's it I'm not renewing my 2 season tickets . If the team can't muster a **** then neither can i
     
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  4. leeds60

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    Good Morning Matt and co from Bardsey blanketed in snow much deeper than any we have had recently
    Well I would give PF a spot for the rest of the season what has gone wrong with the new LB we bought not even on the bench
    Highlighted vast gap between the 2 teams and the need for a big strong CB Cooper needs to be replaced
    Time to give the fringe players a chance
     
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  5. hemase

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    Morning all.

    Just the two positives from laat night. BPF and the fans.

    BPF last night earned the right to stay in goal till season end. The experience of the next 10 games will be so important to his battle for the number 1 shirt.


    I can't decide if PH is just trying his options, picking weak plaers out of position to prove a point to Rad or if he is tactically clueless.
     
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    Hope its the
    Hope its the former
     
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  7. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    BPF did ok, lets not get carried away though, I've got to agree with Hemase, play him for the rest of the season. If we then have to get another goalie in he will depart anyway. I still seriously think we need a captain.

    As to this mornings match, better than I thought but worse than I had hoped.
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

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    Morning all. Bpf did well but I’d have looked good in goal after the recent exploits. Rad made a fool of himself on twitter afterwards. One other positive is we are now top of the bottom half of the table
     
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  9. ristac

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    Spot on Eric.. we feel BPF was class because we’re comparing him to Felix. Give BPF the #1 shirt for the remainder of the season, see how he improves with the experience, make a decision at the end of the season, my opinion is he deserves to stay in goal but we’ll be looking for a better more experienced keeper come July.

    I know we were outclassed last night but simple things bugged me, clearing the first defender at a corner, Saiz, Hernandez trying to take on one too many when a pass was on. Leaving their players unmarked at corners, the inability of stringing together 5-6 passes.

    Yes PH has inherited this squad but let’s not forget why TC got the sack, the board feel the players were good enough for top 6.

    Does the board still feel this is the case? If so PH won’t be here next season, I fear we could be in trouble if Rads does not open his eyes.

    Sorry almost forgot... Morning all
     
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  10. Eireleeds1

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    Will also need to open his wallet Ristac. Hopefully there plenty in it because last nigh highlighted how far off a top two place we are. Possibly further than any of our recent years in this league. It will take a football brain and a colossal amount of cash to put this right. Wolves could have played without a goalkeeper last night and yet there was a suggestion we have too many attacking players
     
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  11. Brendan Sheerin

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    Morning all,

    Everything said above is spot on!
     
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  12. ristac

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    He hasn’t spent too badly, just poorly advised, under Rad we must have spent more on his January signings alone than GFH, Bates and Cellino put together. It wasn’t that long ago we wet our pants because Cellino spent £1m on Murphy. It’s not lack of spending that bothers me, it’s the quality.

    Sacko, we shouldn’t have signed him, Cibicki, Klitch, Ekuban, De Bock, Anita all a waste. We just need to sign 3 quality players to get us on track. When Monk left we were three quality players short, Ortas finds in those three plus replacements for Green, Taylor and Wood are simply not good enough.

    We can’t keep bringing in 7-8 players hoping it will work, ideally I’d love us to spend £50m but it ain’t happening so let’s bring in 3 players who will be first name down on the sheet and it’s a start. Bring in 3 quality players, get shot of 6 and build from that.

    Forshaw, O’Kane, Klitch, Vieira, Anita, Philips - We only need three
    Alioski, Sacko, Cibicki, Dallas, Hernandez - We only need three
    Ekuban Grot Lasogga Roofe Taylor - I’d only keep two

    I’m just picking out players who divide opinion, only Forshaw is first name down on the team sheet. The rest are squad players...
     
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  13. Eireleeds1

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    We need three quality players in defence alone imo Ristac
     
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  14. Eric Le Merde

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    Hopefully the U23's aren't just for show ?
     
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    My point is, we keep trying to quick fix it and we end up with loads of average. If Rads says here is £20m to spend I’d rather see three good signings than 8 we have to Wiki

    Three good players with Saiz, Ayling, Pontus, Forshaw around them is 2/3 way there. Players like Dallas, Alioski and Vieira/Philips might suddenly look better.
     
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  16. Eric Le Merde

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    Exactly it's about how players work together, and the extra shift some are having to do to cover for some deficiencies. Saiz was trying too hard last night to win it by himself, Dallas and Forshaw as well, Pontus in attack ?. I'm not sure how to describe this any better but we need the "sticksion" to let the good bits work as a team and give the others the confidence that they don't have to do it all, this is a team game.
     
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    Agree in the main but thats assuming Pontus and Saiz wont be financing the three quality arrivals same way as last rounds of transfers were financed by Wood and Taylors exit
     
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  18. southernwhite

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    Sadly i think it's the latter,Morning all btw.
     
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  19. milkyboy

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    I think the points about bpf are right. He needs experience, there’s only one way to get it. He’ll make mistakes like he did last night but we have nothing to lose. By the end of the season we’ll know if he’s Worth persevering with. People say he’s not a kid at 21, but physically he’s a late developer.

    Felix is 26? Has loads of experience and we know he’ll make mistakes.

    As for any other positives last night. Well there aren’t any. Wolves did play some very good stuff in the first half but we were dire, if A bit better after the break with pablo on.
     
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  20. southernwhite

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    Good old Irish optimism nothing like it:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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