Very true... and it's why the 'advisory' referendum needs to be decided on the basis of fact not fiction. We are still yet to hear an actual shred of detail about what Brexit will entail... nearly a year after article 50 was invoked we are no nearer to knowing what Brexit means in practice. Makes a complete mockery of what people voted for imo* and whatever slogans you or anyone care to throw back until there is substance to the argument it all seems to be steeped in ideology and dogma rather that fact. *Other opinions may be held
Here you go... https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/human-rights/privacy/id-cards/case-against-id-cards
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...n-mohammad-zain-qureshi-wlatham-a8116671.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...s-campaign-team-has-conviction-for-fraud.html https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/election-candidate-arrested-postal-vote-5602527 now i would imagine there are plenty of tories and greenies at the same thing but id would certainly put an end to some of it
I always laugh when DT posts because if his life is so good in France why is he on here all the time? Surely you wouldn't have the time with so much to do? he spends too much time promoting how good his life is....and we all know the old saying about that. And before I get the usual suspects (sheep) replying. I have a holiday home in France which I visit 3 times a year. I enjoy the breaks and get on well with the neighbours. However, Is France as good as the UK? No way, not in a million years. Some fab parts to France and I love the holidays but no comparison to the UK, faults and all. Good luck to the people who choose to live there. My experience is many of the ones I have met always moan about the UK but come back here all the time to buy things, use medical/dentists. Funnily it's as if they are trying to find something which they could probably find in the UK.
Well he's just a massive beardy arse... VirginCare suing the NHS because they ware not awarded a contract - part of the shambolic East Coast rail franchise with Stagecoach that were let off £2bn in payments owed to the taxpayer... he can toddle off back to his fantasy island as far as I'm concerned along with Dyson and all the other 'Great Britons' whose words and actions bear no relation to each other. Clearly you don't need to be a non-dom tax exile to be in favour of Brexit... but imo it helps.
I’m intrigued to understand what questions you would’ve put on the referendum paper, Seagull, assuming that you would have to give the voters a ‘stay’ or ‘go’ choice? For me, the questions were sensibly as simplistic and easy to understand as they could’ve been beyond simply have just ‘stay’ or ‘go’ on the paper and nothing else. To satisfy everybody, I suppose we could’ve had around 600 individual questions: (1) Should we remain in the EU? (2) Should we leave the EU provided we get Scenario 1? (3) Should we leave the EU provided we get Scenario 2? (4) Should we leave the EU provided we get Scenario 3? ... ... ... ... (599) Should we leave the EU provided we get Scenario 598? (600) Should we leave the EU provided we get Scenario 599? I guess this would be ideal for Remainer as I’m sure Option 1 would’ve received the most votes.
It's just another 'remoaner' excuse. We all knew exactly what we voted for. 'Project fear' gave us enough information regarding leaving. Funnily they predicted immediate doom which never materialized. It's now just the die-hards that are getting desperate and coming up with any excuse. It really is sad.
I think you have just illustrated my point without meaning to - because there was nothing on the ballot paper... nothing offered the time between the referendum and the invoking of article 50 and nothing since - one big fat zero... no detail... not proposals... just lots and lots of hot air and Remind me again what you all voted for? Because you can't deny that some voted for Norway... some for remaining in the Single Market, some for hard no deal WTO... and some for fewer brown faces, curved bananas, and return to a different coloured passport and a possibly even pounds, shillings and pence. Blind leading the blind is an understatement. I note your 'scenarios' are equally lacking in detail... why am I not surprised.
You should see scenario 451 as it has 1000 subsections. You really need to look at the small print, I did and it says..... We are leaving the EU get over it!
Well you should have known Seagull as it was pretty obvious Yes/No...or was it In/out... I can't remember now? Maybe they should have put Up/Down on the ballot paper.
I voted for the UK to leave the EU. It was a pretty clear question. I do, however, agree with Hitchens P when he said the a referendum was not the right way to bring this about. The right way would’ve been to have had a properly elected political party campaigning to leave the EU at a General Election. We haven’t got that, but we is where we am. Scenarios lacking in detail? Do you really think I could be arsed to write 600 scenarios to illustrate a point? I’m far too lazy for that. So, what are the questions you’d have put on the paper Seagull?
For me, I thought the process was fair and the best way. It was obvious that the losers would not accept the result. However, the continual 'remoaning' has been embarrassing. The close result caused this problem.
I was basking today I can tell thee ... had my tackle out Then I drove home from Spain to France along the coast road Tomorrow I have to return to the U.K. and those men on the street I feel I deserve two votes because of my Porsche
