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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by eddieveeee, Aug 25, 2011.

  1. eddieveeee

    eddieveeee New Member

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    What makes you think that?
     
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  2. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    I don't really, but with the **** you're spewing I'm awaiting you to come up with it <ok>
     
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  3. eddieveeee

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    <ok> makes it good
     
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  4. Bhoy From Brum

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    The original thread is kind of correct - the term Al-Queda was made up by the Americans.

    But it was to simply group all the different extremists under one banner so to the thick general public they had a hate figure if you like, Robin Cook is confirming this & this alone not that actions didn't take place!

    Simply there are lots of diffferent terrorist organisations around the world,each doing there own thing & in some cases working together by sharing information etc but it gets abit chaotic reporting all the different groups so they just called them Al-Queda for the sake of easiness.

    Think of Life of Brian - Peoples Front of Judai, Judains People Front..... & you kind of get the idea of why they made up a name to lump them all under. I mean who really gives a **** what actual group carries out what? As long as you know the enemy & someone to hate you can blow them thefuck up too!
     
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  5. thefanwithnoname

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    March 24, 1933, Jewish newspaper Daily Express -- 14,000,000 Jews worldwide

    World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359,

    World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world Jewish population = 15,753,633

    World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world Jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany

    American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000

    World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359

    World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,091

    World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849: World Jewish Population -- 15,192,089

    World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000

    Auchswits sign:

    Four million people suffered and died here at the hands of the Nazi murderers between the years of 1940 and 1945

    changed to:

    Forever let this place be a cry of despair and a warning to humanity where the Nazis murdered about one and a half million men, women, and children, mainly Jews from various countries of Europe, Auschwitz-Birkenam, 1940-1945

    While it's true that the number of Jews in Europe decreased from 10 to 9.4 million between 1928 and 1941, the entire population of Jews in rest of the world also decreased, and much of that was before they could have been exterminated in camps.

    All world almanacs show that during WWII the number of Jews in Europe remained flat, but Britannica Book of the Year reports that the number of Jews in the world increased by 600,000, or 4%.

    How could 6 million Jews (40% of all Jews and 64% of those in Europe) have died in the Holocaust if their worldwide population increased by 4%?
     
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  6. ReallyReal

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    I don't know what's more disturbing, the utter cretiny of some of the replies to the OP, or the fact that people are arguing about figures when it comes to the Holocaust.
    Whether the Nazis killed 10 or 10million Jews doesn't matter, the simple fact is they tried to wipe out an entire race and if you'd ever visited any of the camps that are left as reminders to this, you'd see that the brutality of what went on transcended anything that man had ever previously done and the number of people killed were literally too many to count.
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    but if something isnt true then what?

    for example the story of treblinka

    The Jews' "official" story:


    Treblinka II was a Nazi German extermination camp in occupied Poland during World War II. Around 850,000 people - more than 99.5 percent of whom were Jews, but also other victims (among them 2,000 Romani people) - were killed there between July 1942 and October 1943.

    The truth:

    It was a transit stop where Jews were de-liced and had their hair cut before being shipped to occupied Russia. Train loads of Jews would arrive at T-II to be deloused. Their luggage would also be deloused. Once the procedure was completed, the Jews would board a new train that would take them to their final destination which was either a labor camp or ghetto somewhere in occupied Soviet territory.

    German documents indicate Jews were being funneled through Treblinka which was designated a transit camp. Treblinka played a major role in the deportation of Jews from the Warsaw ghetto to labor camps and ghettos farther east.

    Over six days in October of 1999, Australian scientists conducted a detailed forensic examination of the soil at the site, including the use of ground penetrating radar, and found absolutely no evidence whatsoever of any mass graves ever existing there.
     
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  8. ReallyReal

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    ...but it is true, the Holocaust that is, it's the simple fact that the Nazis actively tried to wipe out the whole race that's important to remember.

    Go to ANY of the camps and look around, you don't need to be a maths genius to figure out that MILLIONS were tortured and killed, that fact is there for all to see.
     
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  9. ReallyReal

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    As for your comments about Treblinka, thefanwithnoname, where exactly did you get your information from as the camp commandant Franz Stangl was tried and found guilty for the deaths of around 900,000 people, he admitted to these killings but argued: "My conscience is clear. I was simply doing my duty."
     
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  10. alwaysright

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    SPLITTER ! Seriously though the murder of just ONE jew was wrong.
     
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  11. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    it was carried out in october 1999 for 6 days by a team lead by richard krege

    i am not saying millions were not killed. or jews targetted
    however i do find it strange that red cross documents from the time dont mention it, neither does churchill in his diaries

    like everything else there are questions and imo doubts, banning asking questions detracts further, imo
     
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  12. alwaysright

    alwaysright @ Very Angry Camel

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    Although my reply was an honest opinion, I was really only trying to work my way down the list as LAST POSTER !
     
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