I’m nothing to do with the Trust, I’ve not made any claims about anything the Trust did or didn’t do. You didn’t clarify your SAG comment?
Did the club hold a ballot of all supporters for the SAG? I think that the trust and others have got the EFL rules wrong. In fact I don’t think it I know it. I point out the mistake and you make it personal.
The Fan Working Group voted for the fan they wanted to appoint to the SAG, so it was the supporters who decided (not every ****ing one of them obviously). I am not in any way responsible for how the Trust read the EFL rules. You made it personal and you were wrong to do so.
It is not nonsense. You're conveniently confusing 2 issues as well. The Trust is democratic and exists to serve it's members and has a wide remit and mandate. It's easy to join and influence. It's played its part well in dealing with our owners, regardless of your views on that. The protest groups have their part to play as well, but they use their anonymity to stay, well, anonymous. We've heard anecdotal evidence on here of folks who would have been interested in playing their part but were unable to find out who to talk to, or how to join. I have no issue whatsoever with the protest groups, but they are not entitled to a say at supporters meetings because they have some demands. They are accountable to no one and are shadowy in nature, and clearly limited to a very small closely knit circle. If you can't see that, I'd be surprised. If you're just arguing for the sake of it, I wouldn't be surprised.
So, the self righteous epiphany continues. There's nothing convenient in my observation of the issues. I know what the Trust is, I am a founder member and have followed it with interest. I have expressed my support of the Trust earlier on this thread, as I have done previously, elsewhere. CTWD (I was a founder member and supporter of that, too) had real success with our owners; can I ask you what success the Trust has had? I know what my opinion has always been; in fact I was recently acclaimed (arf) as being consistent. I am all too aware of your opinions and consistency. Perhaps you're banging the wrong drum. I've covered anonymity elsewhere; it's perfectly acceptable for the reasons given - just as it is on here. If folk really wanted to get involved, social media, this board, PMs, all are avenues to ask questions - even the kings of ineptness, the club, managed it. You take criticism too far, but you always have, you've simply changed shirts. They are as much entitled to a say at supporters meetings as anyone else because they are supporters. Not an hard concept to grasp. Their recent statement seemed very clear and straightforward, I'm surprised you can't see that. If you believe I'm arguing for the sake of it I suggest I can't help you and you really should go away and try to understand your new position a little better.
No wonder the atmosphere is so quiet at our games........do we have any fans that get on with each other?
Ha ha, where I stand in North Stand, there is big ferkin twat of a bloke who has taken the empty seat to my left for the last few home games. I have grumbled and groaned about him.....nickname "The Tree".....however against Barnsley he was a wind/snow shield. See...even the most annoying person can come in useful at some point
We filled the stadium when we were in the 4th tier, for a midweek match at that and against Swansea City hardly a local derby nor a club with a massive away following at that time).
We got 21,000 and a 1,000 locked out for that game. The average for the season was under 17,000. The highest attendance fora 4th tier game is 36,000 at Palace. I can remember Burnley having around 30,000. But they wouldn't base predictions on that. We got just under 20,000 with the feelgood factor around with our promotion to the Championship but were down to 18,025 for the season we got to the play off final against Bristol. That doesn't suggest we will get a full stadium to watch a poor, depleted team in the Championship even with the happiness the Allams leaving will bring. The damage done will not easily be repaired.
It all depends on what a potential new owner might do. If its like a Bradford or (4yrs ago) Huddersfield model, i.e. season tickets for £195 for adults, and around £50 for kids, we could quite easily sell 20,000. Especially with re-opening of West Stand Upper and feel good factor with the new owners. All complete conjecture, but I can see it happening at some point............
Where I am in the North Stand there’s an annoying skinny twat who always moans, especially since my footl long sausage roll poked him in the eye.
Ha ha, the skinny bit rules me out.....your sausage roll would be in danger if it came anywhere near my face
Actually where I stand there is a group of skinny teenagers. They provide an alternative source of entertainment when the football is dire. We can read their texts over their shoulders and it is a real education. I never knew shoplifting digestive biscuits was so daring.
Prices for next season at Huddersfield are : £249 adults, £129 U18s, £49 U8s. Which are still good. But no doubt some of our fans could find fault with it, someone having a better seat for the same money or something else...
So example of family = , 2 adults, 1 child age 10, one child age 8 = £676 for season in Premier League At Hull City Tigers, cheapest is £21 * 4= £84/month x 12 = £1,008 At Bradford, if you bought them early, Adults were £149, 11-16yrs £99, under 11 - £5 per season. For third season in a row they sold 20,000 season tickets
But what do their owners know about running a club? They would have shortened their names to Huddersfield Terriers and Bradford Bantams for a start.
