I think you're going to have to prepare for more departures. Some players will play out their best and last years at Spurs. Mousa Dembele and Jan Vertonghen will stay. Partly because they're happy and they want to. Partly because they're settled and their families want it. Partly because they're not that bothered by money and partly because they're undervalued elsewhere. There are some at the club that will definitely be sold at some point. Some because they want it - I'd put Dele in that category and probably Eric Dier. Danny Rose will go, if he stops eating only lard and ice cream. Others might go because, at some point, they reach a sale price that, the club feel, is above their true value and given their age, we can get better value elsewhere. If we sell Toby and buy Malcom and Ryan Sessegnon with the money, is it such a bad thing? Do we not need a Harry Kane back-up if Llorente leaves? Sissoko's played more games than anyone else. He isn't Mousa Dembele but who do we play when the real Mousa's injured? We can't exist on just 11 very highly paid players. We've coped without Toby, when injured, because of the Sissoko's at the club. He's very limited and overpaid but we need 20+ senior players and only Citeh and United can pay someone £200k to sit on the bench. If we're selling those fringe players and not buying replacements, maybe we should play Tashan Oakley-Booth or Oliver Skipp against Juve? You haven't addressed what we pay everyone else if we pay Toby £150k and where that money comes from.
I'm just having a chat with the poor sunderland lads. They're on the brink of a double relegation and face a serious threat of liquidation. Ellis Short can't flog the club for free as no-one wants to shoulder the burden of £160m debt which will be closer to £200m when they drop to League 1. And why pray-tell are they in such a mess? Because they pay useless crocks like Jack Rodwell £70k per week. As long as Levy keeps his nose out of footballing matters, I trust him to make the soundest financial decision available.
Actually, I'll let the stats decide the issue on Toby for this season. Last two seasons and he has been pivotal in strengthening the defence. However for this season he has missed a number of PL and CL games. If the SYSTEM PLAYED is actually now more significant than the individual as far as defence goes, then like the DOF he is in "know what I am worth" territory. Contrast with Kane and Eriksen, who if either depart then the attack will quickly be reduced in potency close to what we are seeing in the FA Cup campaign.
Given the way that it's reported, it's easy to forget that outside 3 clubs, professional football's a business. Stadiums, transfer fees and contracts have to be paid for. Spurs owner isn't going to spunk £2 billion on a hobby. We accept that and move on. The most important thing in this story [if it's true] isn't that Toby's leaving, it's that Mauricio Pochettino and Daniel Levy agree on the outcome. We can buy any number of replacement centre halves. I don't know where we find another Mauricio Pochettino?
Citeh, Chelsea [maybe not any more?] and PSG were the clubs that I was thinking of. They have been 'doped' way beyond their true nature. Before their current owners pumped unending money into them, they were all also-rans at best. United are a money-making machine but they are making the money themselves and actually being milked by the Glazers.
1. The Glazers are the majority owners, and they use some of the profits from each year to pay down the personal debt they accrued in buying the club. 2. As proven by their megabucks transfer/wage fees of late, whatever is happening for #1 is not (yet) affecting the on-pitch aspirations of the club.
I think we've seen a slight decline over at chelsea in recent years. Whether Roman has simply lost the novelty of his racist little toy or whether the soaring costs of their new stadium are too much for the russian mafia to shoulder, time will tell.
He doesn't want to front up the money for a new stadium, even though on paper he probably could. He has already blown 1bn on player-related costs in his time and has effectively written that off. Given the state-sponsored spending by Citeh these past few months, I do not see how the UEFA FFP would stop Chelsky doing similar.
As spurs fans I'm sure all of us on here have one thing in common the survival of our club.I remember a few years back when we nearly went out of business altogether thankfully that didn't happen and we have moved on to better times.NO PLAYER is bigger than our club we have lost many class players over the years but have always bounced back.Toby wasn't the first and won't be the last to leave.I have faith in levy and poch to take us onto better things and in my opinion poch is already one step ahead in that direction.we bought big dave to eventually take over from yan or Toby and the fact that Toby got injured in one way was a blessing in disguise because big dave stepped up to fill his boots admirably .I'm sure poch was intending to ease dave into the first team in cup games and the odd league game here and there but the fact that he has established himself ahead of schedule is a bonus for Poch so now he can decide with levy as where to go with Toby and his wage demands or new contract ,we can either cash in now or negotiate on our terms knowing we have a replacement already here.None of us want Toby to go but the club must come first in poch we trust COYS
With Walker (and I suspect soon with the DOF) they have already proved their point. Would have been great to have kept Walker, but his departure : 1. got top money quickly, to spend on other players 2. has not affected the Spurs defence at all, and arguably not the attack either 3. is hardly the reason that Citeh are so far ahead of the rest of the PL this season
1. Conceded 2 more goals to date this season to date than last. 2. If you wish to claim that failure to deal with the Wembley busparquet is due to no Walker, then I would assume there is plenty of assist / pass before the assist counts for Walker last season.
I haven’t done that maths admittedly but if we’re going to fill or close to fill a 60,000+ seater stadium each week with naming rights, increased kit sponsorship, NFL games and so forth, aren’t I correct in assuming our turnover will be significantly higher? Surely our balance sheet from next season will be significantly better. In fact, many season tickets for the new ground have already sold so our wage threshold should increase relatively. We’re not going to be poor old Tottenham anymore.
Move this to the new stadium article ?? Correct. 5/3 times as much match day revenue from old WHL by just assuming linear ticket / staff costs. I might make a basic spreadsheet, so people can play around with the numbers themselves to see how match day revenue can be used to increase transfer/wage funds + make payments on the stadium debt etc.
Even with the naming rights etc there's no getting past the fact we'll be paying off the cost of that new stadium, so we won't miraculously be several billion quid better off the second we move in. For example it was two or three years after Arsenal moved into the Emiroids before they eased up on their wage bill and started splashing the cash on transfer fees. Going back to Toby for a second, the Times article makes specific mention that he wants to be paid in line with what Liverpool are paying Van Dijk, which implies bullshit either from the Times journalist who wrote the piece given hacks' habit of using the "Club X pays Player A this amount, so Club Y should also pay Player B the same amount" logic, or from Toby and/or his agent using any excuse to engineer a move while playing the fans for idiots like Kyle Walker attempted last year or a certain attendee for the Last Supper did the best part of twenty years ago.
That revenue increase is about a lot more than the wage demands of one player (what if N players make similar demands etc) .
On paper, or on spreadsheet as it normally is done nowadays, is as far detached from the real world as Sol Campbell's aspirations to become a leading football manager. The second you enter a number into a spreadsheet your spreadsheet is wrong. Formulas are OK, but hard numbers reduce a spreadsheet to the usefulness to that of a suppository, and IMHO should be shoved up the same place. Accountants generally keep Capital Expenditure and cost of financing CAPEX totally separate, well good ones do anyway. So when you look at the cost of the new stadium it is unlikely to include the cost of financing. Most, if not all people with money, have it tied up somewhere, so financing, on top of the CAPEX, would probably mean that Abramovic would not be in a position to bail out his little racist club at a minutes notice. He would have to free up capital, which generally takes time and comes at an additional cost. Now a one year or 18 month build is not the end of the world, most teams would get by with no player investment for 18 months. During this period, the financing would cost about £200 M on top of the the £1 Billion CAPEX for the stadium. But a five year financing deal would tie up all of his available funds for the duration. It would double the price to about £2 Billion and in that 5 year period he would not be in a position to buy/pay OTT wages to players for his darling little sh!tbag club. If you then add the managerial turnaround and associated costs, it can't have passed him by that there is a fair chance that with no player investment for 5 years, he will piss off whichever/whoever of 5/10/15 number managers that he decides to employ in that time. The upshot might be that he ends up with a 'wonderful' birdsnest of a stadium, hosting a Championship, or even Division 1 club. The time taken to build a new stadium is everything, time is money. In order to run a club like he does, it needs him to invest constantly, and a 5 year monkey on his back must be a frightening thought. He can't rely on so called 'friends', as many would love to see him fail. He has to rethink his strategy.
