Holgate and Firmino incident !

There was no evidence apart from an accusation from Holgate to charge Firmino despite 12 people being interviewed.

That in my book is not guilty, none of this bollocks insufficent evidence crap.

Or you referring to Holgate and the actual tweets sent?

 

That's the FA's stance when a case is presented to them, they look at it and if theres "not enough evidence to charge him" there's no case to answer, as is the case here.

By the way some of the dozen witnesses were Everton players, they obviously gave evidence that they never heard what Holgate made up.

#blamethehonestefcplayers

 

What was in the interviews and the additional TV angles. fA have left this open, surely not to cause confusion.

 

Holgate up for slander charges then and false accusations/lying in (hanging) court

 

Of course he can back it up.

Holgate said ''he called me a ........'' - there's clear evidence of this. That statement from Holgate amounts to an accusation of racism and it's that accusation which defames Firmino and gives him a case to bring to court. Which he is unlikely to do and imo would be unwise.

 

Nope, but if you ever makes a similar accusation against another player during his career this case will come back and bite him on the arse.

 

Where is the evidence from the kangaroo court he was racist?

Slightest, and I mean slightest, Firmino would have been royally shafted by the FA if there was anything to go on.

You know it and I know it.

Case closed have a good day.

 

That’s it then. Onto Holgate the homophobia king

 

What is interesting is the "justice" and parity of "justice" in these FA cases

Holgate's word was enough for the FA that he was being sincere in his claim, but Firmino's word wasn't good enough for the FA that he was being sincere in his claim

 

Ched Evans went to prison on the word against his

 

Kinda proves my point, in cases like this and rape, you are more or less guilty until you prove innocence. This is not a slant on Holgate, but on the SJW witch hunt mania we are seeing today

Though in the Evans case, it was his word against "I don't remember" and feminists filled in the gaps with "too drunk to consent", as if that would work on a drink driving charge like

 

Same between two cases, not sufficient evidence......

Does that mean we have evidence in this case?

 

I'd like to know when did Holgate learn Portuguese?

 

There was other evidence as well in that case, interestingly enough when the evidence was looked at again Evans was found not guilty, none of this insufficient evidence ****.

 

Evans' conviction was a joke. The woman never claimed she was raped. They are not remotely similar cases

I am talking about the contradiction of the FA's stance. They took one person's word for it, and didn't take the other's, and both were offences, as in false allegations and racist slurs, and if either had been guilty of the respective offenses they would been punished, but as I said, only one person's word was good enough.

The FA even made a point at length that they thought Holgate did not make it up, but only had his word to go on. Nothing else.

That is not even at all.

 

It is impossible to prove in any way shape or form, that someone made up an allegation that they heard a racist slur.
Fine ok

But damage can be done to another person's career by claiming you heard something.

Seems rather uneven to me. The accuser is basically immune and the accused has to prove innocence

IF Holgate had said that to the Guardian and it was published, he would definitely be in legal trouble because he has no evidence to support his claim, and "thought you heard" is a defence that would never work in court.

I will say, no one accused him of a false allegation specifically. So there is that I guess So it was odd the FA spoke up on it.

 

Well we have moved on from the racist Firmino with no evidence.

So why not.

 

But the FA is the ruling body of English football not the English judiciary.

Example, John Terry gets found not guilty in court of an allegation he later gets found guilty of by the FA panel, the FA deal with broken rules of the game, the courts deal with broken laws of the country.

 

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in fairness to holgate the video shows his reaction. i do not think it was faked and it looks clear enough IMO.