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Win The FA Cup or stay up, grown up version

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by fatletiss, Feb 18, 2018.

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Simple choice. Stay up or won FA Cup.

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  1. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    You don’t want to tell him about winning the FA Cup? Surely that would override whatever came next?
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Exactly, hypotheticals are hypotheticals and you never know what's around the corner.

    So why not take the cup win while it's on offer? ;)
     
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  3. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah that's the only way we'd become a real force in this league and I don't think I'd even want that.
     
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  4. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    I’m shallow. It’s not my preferred route, but I’d take it :)
     
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    saintsfcfan Well-Known Member

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    Have to agree. I would love to see what it would be like to be a huge force in World football for a season or two.

    Until that day comes however I’d much rather have a cup than survival this season.

    We’d return to the Prem eventually. So has to be a cup for me.
     
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  6. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    OK, you have all persuaded me. We can win the cup and go down, but somehow I need to take my older grandson to Wembley (he’ll be 21 months in May).
     
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  7. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I don't know why people are dismissing the prospect of winning the PL. Afterall, we're talking completely hypothetically.

    If you offered me FA Cup and relegation this season, over no FA Cup and survival this season followed by winning the PL next season, I'd be choosing the latter.

    Do I think we're likely to win the PL anytime soon? No, of course I don't. But this is a completely hypothetical discussion, so it shouldn't be dismissed. And in any event, a surprise side has won the PL more recently than one has won the FA Cup. (I agree that it's a very rare event, but equally just go and have a look at the FA Cup winners since Wimbledon won it 30 years ago!)
     
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  8. Saintmagic

    Saintmagic Well-Known Member

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    Where’s the “get dicked in the quarter final of the cup and get relegated” option as that is what is probably going to happen this year
     
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  9. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Our fans are entitled enough as it is though! Home games would be unbearable.
     
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  10. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Because it will never, never happen. Leicester was a one off which hasn't happened in the money era before and will likely never happen again.

    Wigan and Pompey have both won the FA Cup in the past decade.
     
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    sotonsaint Well-Known Member

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    Finally someone talking sense!!
     
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  12. rednright

    rednright Well-Known Member

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    Winning the FA Cup all day long so we don't all have to go to another mike osman celebration event!
     
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  13. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I massively, massively doubt it will ever happen again. But I also can't see us winning the FA Cup.

    This whole discussion is somewhat fantasy land (which I'm not having a dig at, btw). So to have such a discussion, I don't see why it should then be limited.

    Yes I massively doubt Leicester will ever be repeated. But they never saw it coming. Likewise I doubt Man City ever saw it coming, before they got taken over. (Completely different circumstances, but there's more than one route to the top).

    The FA Cup is not the League Cup. It isn't easy to win. Yes Wigan and Pompey have done it in the past decade, but as I say, go right back 30 years. It's those two, and Everton in the mid 90s. That is it, in 30 years. Outside of those three occassions, it's just the big boys winning it. That's one whole more occasion than a non-big boy winning the PL (Leicester and Blackburn).
     
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  14. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I bet you're loads of fun at parties.
     
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  15. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I'd say it's massively more likely to win that than the league though, it's a cup competition, anything can happen. A lot of other clubs have made finals and been unlucky to lose as well, West Ham and Palace off the top of my head. Even Pompey in 2010.

    I also wouldn't class Blackburn as in the same category as Leicester. They spent a lot for the time.
     
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  16. Saints_Alive

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    Just look at the PL table this season...SIXTEEN points between 5th and 7th place, the gap is widening and the transfer fees and wages are widening too.
    It's a microcosm of capitialism and it's difficult to see where it is going to end up, probably with the elite in a separate league.
     
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  17. Saints_Alive

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    To win the FA Cup you need to win six ties of random fixtures, probably at least one match against an elite club (more likely two or three).
     
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  18. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Well we've won 3 ties... and got our first elite club coming up.


    Last South Coast team to win a pot had to win a quarter final in Manchester against the team comfortably the best in the league and among the best in Europe...
     
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    Schad Well-Known Member

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    No, because I think that it would render it a very bittersweet victory. The cup win would be our last hurrah before the bottom fell out, and the source of a neverending series of questions concerning whether we would have survived if we hadn't had a two-track mind that year. It would forever be "we won, but...".
     
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  20. Saints_Alive

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    Or we could bounce back up like Burnley or Newcastle....
     
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