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  1. wizered

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    Mark Ashton explains why Bristol City have two plans for transfers in the summer
    Robins CEO says that the club is looking towards the long term however

    Bristol City's senior officials are busily making plans for the summer transfer market no matter which division the Robins find themselves in.

    The CEO discussed next summer's recruitment drive in an interview on the official club website on Friday evening, before the Sunderland match.

    Ashton confirmed again that there was interest in City's key players but the club were delighted with having warded off any would-be suitors for the likes of Joe Bryan, Aden Flint and Bobby Reid before talking about the 2018 summer window.
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    "We've had a good first half of the season. Good league performances, good results and a good cup run but we're in the business end of the season now," he said.

    "We have to be very careful that we don't get ahead of ourselves and get carried away or believe in the hype that's been built up around the club and particularly around the cup run.

    "We're very much focused on the here and now and what we have to do. So yes recruitment programme now starts again for the summer. And people will say to me what happens if the club was to get promoted. Well, we'd be prepared as we possibly can be.

    "But we're not getting ahead of ourselves. We're a Championship club at this moment in time and we have a job to do and we have to be competitive in the second half of the season.

    "So it's business as usual. we have a very set process of doing recruitment on how we identify talent and that will remain the same.

    "And come the summer wherever we'll be as prepared as we possibly can be," explained Ashton.

    The senior Robins official then went on to explain that the club will have two specific plans depending on what happens between now and the end of the season.
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    "The Championship plan will be very detailed because that's the pond we've been fishing in and that's where we'll probably be recruiting our players for. If we're in another division then we'd have a plan that would put us in the best shape we possibly could.

    "That plan will always be difficult to execute because the time for any club achieving promotion, starting the season and recruiting players is tight.

    "But we do our homework, we're professional and there's a professional team in the recruitment department now and we'll make sure wherever we are we'll be as prepared as we possibly can."

    Ashton went on to confirm that the club are set up for the long term and are not specifically targeting promotion this season.
    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/mark-ashton-explains-bristol-city-1205023
     
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  2. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    Am I falling for the rhetoric or soft sell, I always thought this guy was full of waffle but I am liking and believing his phylosophy, cool, calm and mature thinking, now I'll go, have a cup of tea and some chocolate biscuits.
     
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    Sadly I think Plan A is all we will need after the last months results. Still 3 wins in a row now and it all changes again...
     
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    Steady on Wiz , I'm beginning to think all the Cornwall air is affecting you .
     
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  5. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    I do agree, we can all dream but I don't think we are a Premier level entry club yet, players or manager, Championship for us next season but then maybe.....
     
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    I think depth is missing , however bottom clubs in Premier League I genuinely believe are not way beyond our level. Getting there though is another thing all together, the championship is a really difficult league to get promotion from.
     
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    no not chocolate .... plain digestive ...
     
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    I reckon they are planning for next year at this level

    Which I think is probably very sensible as we're not going up.
     
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    It almost seems the club don't want to go up, 2017 to 2018 chalk and cheese.
     
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    Recent results probably show that the existing squad is not good enough to go up at this point.

    However, a year's more experience plus some additions ......... then who knows.

    Of course that means holding onto Reid, Bryan, Flint etc
     
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    Don't quitye understand this guys. No Championship squad (with the exception of maybe Wolves) are good enough for the Premier right now - it's all about getting there and then doing something about it. The job in hand right now is to go for promotion - nothing else should matter, there's plenty of time to think about next season.

    Unless you've got megabucks to blow and run the risk of breaching FFP rules, you will never build a squad in the Championship that will not then require major surgery to stay up if it gets there.

    You may call it realism but I've never heard such fence sitting from a club that has done so well and put itself on the front foot by getting into the top 6 at the halfway point, and then seemingly decide to consolidate for the Championship next season.

    Maybe a two pronged plan but only one should have been considered at the half way point given where you got yourself by Christmas. Except for the back-patters, wrong message - seems like preparing the ground for failure..
     
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  12. oneforthebristolcity

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    Must admit, agree with OS, that no squad is ready for the prem, until you're in it, you won't know
    We've had some good runs, hence the reason we are where are....It was and still is an opportunity to get promotion or at least go for it..
    Failure, is not everything, but thinking we will be more ready next season, I don't buy......A few bad results at the beginning of a season quite often turns into a "avoiding the drop mission".....And we know where that can go......restless with the manager, players and coaching staff and then the owner..
    Whatever happens, players will come and go, be it, here in the championship or in the prem next season.....It will be all change that's for sure!
     
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    At the start of the season did anybody expect us to be in the top six in the middle February with a League Cup Semi-Final experience under our belt? I certainly didn’t I would have been happy with a top half finish. Now I’ve said all season I don’t expect us to finish in the top 6 and to drop out of these places will be disappointing but meh if it happens it happens and we go again next season with a young squad and manager with a further years’ experience under its belt. We are punching above our weight with a young upcoming squad against teams with Premiership experience and budgets. Our team can only get better. The policy of buying young potential is the right policy. Panic buying an average jailbird striker from a struggling Championship side for over the odds should not be our business model. Let other clubs flash the cash, only 3 sides can get promoted, spend big and miss out and you will spend time trying to balance the books. Look out cheap we got Baker from Villa for because they had to do exactly this?
    I’ve never been more excited in my 40 odd years of supporting City, we are finally doing things the right way building towards the Premiership rather than going for the quick fix with no foundations.
     
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    Another cheap shot that misses the point altogether. I didn't want him either, not at that price anyway, but he fills a place in the side that we were severely lacking - someone to hold the ball up for the likes of Hoilett et al to benefit from. That's why he was brought in - his past personal history is irrelevant except for an opportunist to make a dig.

    The bland acceptance that if you miss out this time you will be better placed to challenge next season is pie in the sky. Whatever 3 teams do go up and will be "out of the way" for next season will be replaced by 3 Premier clubs coming down. That's not to mention the others up and around the current top 6 who wont be going up - do you think they'll be sitting around waiting for you to "improve"?

    This isn't necessarily a one shot go at it, teams do need to steadily improve to mount a realistic challenge at the top of the Championship to give themselves a fighting chance, but FFS you're there right and now! Yeah yeah, we know you got a young squad with a young manager and are only going to improve - are you sure?

    We are only a few points in front of you at the mo and that can change in a couple of games, but I doubt you'll find anyone over here within the club or in the stands that are thinking right now about how we improve for next season in the Championship - we'll face that when it comes.
     
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    Personally I think we've had our 'moment' for this season and that was the run to the LC Semi, taking 4 Premiership scalps along the way. The attention we got was unprecedented, but it's clearly taken its toll, and while we are now faltering, some of the in form clubs like Aston Villa and Fulham have since caught, or have caught and overtaken us.

    We could still finish in the top 6 but it wouldn't surprise me if we don't. We're entering a crucial run of games up to and including Easter and need victories.

    We're not good enough to catch Wolves (who are going to be Champions), or even Villa now, and a top 6 finish is the best we can hope for, but I'm sceptical we'll even make that. The only upside is that there will be plenty of 6 pointers most weeks and we might benefit from those when contenders are playing each other.
     
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    Still think second spot is up for grabs by anyone in the top 6 who can string a good run together - and that includes you though I accept that your Carabao Cup run seems to have left its' mark. From where you are right now, a top 6 finish minimum with a chance in the playoffs must be achievable and the target - once you're in the playoffs, anything can happen.

    As you rightly say, there are a lot of the top teams yet to play each other and others can take advantage from that, but you must put away teams you are expected to beat - Bolton and Sunderland could have been your nemesis.

    We just must win our home game in hand tonight against Bolton and then again home against Middlesbrough on the weekend to put pressure on Villa and Derby. Incidenatally, I see Derby also play tonight away at Sheff Wed - that result could be crucial.
     
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    For Christ sake don't let's turn yet another thread into a debate about Cardiff, I couldn't give a cows cuss about them, I am bored stiff with all of the references to them, we are constantly referring to them, there is a thread devoted to them, make your arguments on there, not every where else.

    I am interested in the direction and decisions made about Bristol City by Mark Ashton and the general direction we are heading.

    If this thread gets ruined by arguments about ex players and jibes about cheap shots I will delete them, lets keep talking about our own club, we are in a great position at the moment, we have had a couple of failures, it happens, compared with our improvement this season over last, it proves our direction of travel, I am happy with our manager and club, so lets keep to the subject and not be distracted.

    If anyone gets offended go tell your MP I am fed up of the arguments and could not care less..
     
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    For goodness sake don't get all prissy again Wiz. The thread you posted was about the direction of your club and open to comments from others as to whether they thought it right - not just to pat each other on the back.

    I posted a reply about your club as I'm interested in general - someone else then made a remark about mine.

    I'm not here to offend anyone, only for a general chat - and not about Cardiff either.

    If you don't like the discussion, you can delete my posts on the subject or maybe close the thread because it's attracting varying opinions as to which is the right approach, not just yours.
     
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    Just had a bit of a tasty thought.......meeting Cardiff in the playoff final........**** would hit the fan me thinks <laugh>:emoticon-0103-cool::emoticon-0103-cool:<laugh>
     
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    Mark Ashton is spot on. Whilst many now think we'll most likely be adding to the existing squad for another promo push next year, BCFC are being professional in planning a contingency in the event that we might be playing in a higher league. Both options covered and targets identified. That makes perfect sense to me and I'm excited for the closed season either way as we've done our reputation no harm at all this season.
     
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