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Match Day Thread Bristol city v Q P R

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by johngalleyfan2, Jan 25, 2018.

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  1. Oldsparkey

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    Nick - Don't know about your player's tackle so I can't comment and I've got a lot of time for your opinions on here, but that observation about Bennett last night deliberately trying to hurt Sane is wrong.

    It was obvious he was determined to stop Sane with a "professional foul" but to say he set out to virtually cripple Sane is way over the top. Bennett is left footed and because of that went in with the wrong leg to make that challenge. Sane is so quick. Bennett mistimed his tackle and his foot went into Sane's leg rather than in front of it.

    In the ground I honestly thought he was lucky not to get a red just because of the "last man" rule. At the time I didn't realise he'd caught Sane like that until I saw the vid. Terrible challenge that deserved red card but to say his intention was to possibly end Sane's career is ludicrous.
     
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    Sorry Sparkey - I'm not going so far as to suggest Bennett had ambitions of sending him to hospital or ending his career, and we'll never know what's going through a player's head, but I do think the old clichés of 'get stuck into them' and 'let them know they're in a game' applied here. I see he's since come out and apologised which is admirable, though I think in the heat of the moment, he was frustrated - as he was when collecting his second yellow later on. Sounds like Warnock wasn't impressed that he ruled himself out of the Leeds game as a result.
     
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    'Terrible challenge that deserved red card but to say his intention was to possibly end Sane's career is ludicrous'.

    I agree, but for me he did try to 'hurt' him.
    When you go in a foot off the ground, it usually isn't a mistake.
    It's to 'stop' rather than take the ball.
    Sparkey, I respect your view and perhaps I'm wrong, but it's how I remember the game.
     
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    Nick - if anything, Warnock was more annoyed at the stupidity of his injury time yellow card - that earned the Warnock rant.

    I still maintain that "letting them know you're on the pitch" is commonplace and not the same as tackling with intent to do damage. Over the years we've all seen players whose stock in trade is intimidation. Bennett is not like that and he got a yellow for that first offence rather than the red he deserved if VAR was in use for that purpose.



    Redprintt - in that context "hurt" is synonymous with letting them know your there. As you're probably my age, Nobby Stiles, Billy Bremner and Norman Hunter were past masters of it.
     
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    I view 'hurt' different to 'letting them know you're there'.
    Just me I suppose.
     
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    You're taking "hurt" in the literal sense rather than the implied intention.

    Nothing wrong with the physical side of the game - but like you, that just me I suppose.
     
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    Maybe, but it's a blurry line at best. In this specific case I reckon Bennett knew quite early on that he wasn't going to get the ball, yet made no effort to pull out of the challenge because he thought: 'I'd rather concede a foul then let him go on and it maybe result in a goal', and the fact that contact was made as high up as it was (i.e. considerably more than the height of the ball) at least is indicative that he wanted to get a good 'piece' of Sane.

    I've no qualms in admitting that, in the cold light of day, he most likely wouldn't want Sane to be seriously injured long term, but in the moment I reckon he wanted to take him out and take him out well.
     
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    to appeal or not to appeal that is the question!
    it would be a factor as to what the ref says in his report, SCOWEN did seem to throw in extra dramatics with at least 1 if not 2 extra rolls at the end, it was a gymnast doing a roly poly tuck with 4 and a half side rolls!
    I actually laughed whenI saw it!

    justice was served, HOLLOWHEAD brought on an extra striker for a defender so we won 2-0 as a result of having less of a defence to penetrate!
     
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    Nick - when you combine Sane being incredibly quick, Bennett tackling with the wrong leg because he's left footed and being late trying to deliberately get is foot in front of Sane to bring him down with a professional foul, the end result was a horrific studs up impact that deserved a red card.

    Your opinion that it was a deliberate attempt to do Sane an injury is an assumption too far. Once again only my opinion though.
     
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    Ok - how about 'a good ol' clobber', rather than injury?
     
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    I'll go with that no problem.

    I still think it was a flawed attempt to trip him that went wrong but accept that "leaving a calling card" was also on Bennett's mind. <ok>
     
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    Out of interest @Oldsparkey you said last season that Warnock out managed LJ which most on here agreed.
    But against Pep’s team of superstar’s, throwing away the results as both of us lost, but which manager team plan gave Pep’s team a game?
     
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    The one thing that is apparent is Pep did not dwell on his after match comments, just praised his team and wished for a home tie!
     
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    watched the video on BBC , it looks like how he put his foot down just prior to the contact it was not straight? bent inward? so would not have helped his injury ..?
     
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    Who gives a **** about your opinion? practically every pundit in the media knows full well what the intention of that tackle was, you have clearly never played the game!

    Warnocks follow up rant was disgraceful, he should be banned for that himself.
     
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    Well it seems a few decent posters on here do - obviously that rules out you.

    You're obviously still suffering from severe PTSD after your previous attempts to have a go at me - counselling might help or try the Samaritans.

    In the meantime to answer your more sensible post ROD - I think whilst Warnock has done it all in the game and has the experience over Johnson, but there comes a time when history gets boring and the future is more important - I'll leave you to decide what I mean. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    Don't know if you noticed but this was a Bristol City match day thread and wasn't about Cardiff in any way.. because no one actually cares about you over here, but you cant help the childish attention seeking of a 4 year old child can you.

    Why don't you go talk about Cardiff on your own board you condescending prick, we can all come over then and paste some opinions from Fans across the country what they think of your team and manager if you like.
     
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    Temper, temper banksy - you'll be throwing your toys out of your pram again shortly (if you've got any left).

    Despite your moronic attitude, even you should be aware that although this is a Bristol City match thread, Nick mentioned an incident on it that referred to my club and one of it's players to which I responded. We had a decent chat about it and agreed to disagree through a fair exchange of posts.

    I never interfere with your club discussions and will never destroy a thread, but will respond when I wish to any mention of Cardiff. That may be a bit alien to a pillock like you who can't accept discussion, but hey ho every board has a resident arsehole who thinks their N606 board is exclusive them.

    To the rest of you, and even the subject of this post, you are welcome to visit the Cardiff board anytime where you will be met with some friendly banter from the residents. <ok>
     
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    I can only assume there cant be many left as you have bored them all to tears with your condescending **** and tales of sheep wrangling. I assume thats why you come over here boring us now with how much money you have and how much you love yourself..

    By the way, your presence has already spoilt the thread, so follow your own advice and **** off to your own board, you boring man.
     
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