Match Day Thread 2017/18 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Thought that was the whole point. Other than the VAR being able to communicate to the ref something he has missed, the ref only calls on it if he's unsure. If the ref was calling on it a lot, it would show up how incompetent he was in dealing with incidents himself.

 

Which was my original prediction. Half the West Brom team should have been booked for it.

 

Yes you are right, i just disagree fundamentally with the whole premise of the god like ref who deigns to decides things when he feels like it.

If a ref doesn't wave off a call but draws the box right off IMO he would take 2 mins out of the process.

Surely natural justice says a team deserves at least one review a game to challenge a refs call.... surely?

 

I agree.

100k fine for doing it every time IMO. it'd cut it out within a week.

Miking refs to allow us all to hear everything would also help a lot

 

Ideally the VAR should automatically be used when a goal is scored as in rugby for a try or cricket for a wicket. The 2nd ref or whatever should probably intervene for serious foul play not seen by the ref or be asked for opinion when the ref has seen it. You should probably leave it at that otherwise you undermine the ref on the pitch who merely becomes a whistle blower.

 

The trial stage limits what it can be used for - goals, penalties and mistaken identity, so not much opportunity to challenge. Will the 'real' fully functioning VAR include more things, a lot more things or everything?

 

TBH I wonder about some umpires in cricket as we've seen a few no balls not being given now which is basically one umpires job per over.

I think you want a situation where video ref can ok a goal within 10 seconds. I don't think you can review everything all the time live. Rugby has ref deciding to call for the review. I would prefer that a ref looks to linesman first for offside, then has his opinion on any foul play he saw then awards a goal and THEN the defending side calls for review than every goal being looked at. I felt it was actually wrong to review the third (real) west brom goal. I felt there was nothing at all wrong with it.

I think you COULD put a rule in saying even pen appeal is reviewed but put in an automatic booking if a player is seen to have exaggerated contact.. not just no contact so that we don't have floppers every 2 mins.

BUT.... i still think a team deserves at least one review a match just cos the stakes are so high.

 

IMO dangerous play has to be in there. If a player like sane is taken out of it and theres no punishment really its wrong. the guy even got sent off for second yellow later... If a ref had reviewed in time taken to haul sane's broken arse off the pitch then its a red.... IF gaurdiola/city saw it and called for review its a red.

all day every day.

Rugby has it for tipping and high tackles.

If football is serious about concussion then every felliani elbow... sorry leap for a header... should be reviewed.

 

Theatrical dives to get the attention from the ref should be punished.

 

This surrounding of the ref is something that should be resolved. It had been cut to captain and offending player, well so I understood.

 

Agreed. Umpires have practically given up policing no ball as they know it will be checked at the fall of a wicket. Batting sides lose out on extra runs and in the past it was an useful guide for bowlers who were close to no-balling as the umpire would warn them.

It works pretty well in rugby as there are enough breaks in play for the video ref system not to seem to be interfering too much. Players are much better behaved generally and only the captain can speak to the ref. This should be the case in football. It would give Can something to do!

Some sort of challenge by teams is a good idea but has to be restricted.

 

Been doing some reading around on VAR and there's nothing to suggest that if [or when] it's fully a part of the game that the decisions it's used for will be increased i.e. it will only be implemented for goals, penalties, mistaken identity and wrongfully issued red cards. Nothing about issuing of cards [only correcting wrongly issued reds], fouls, dangerous play etc.

 

Hmmmm.

Klopp claiming he was told the reason only 4 minutes given of first half injury time rather than 10 because TV guys said it couldn't be longer.

Not that it would have helped our shower in any way but that's not on if true.

 

I agree
it was in bt.

it's a disgrace if West Brom were disadvantaged by tv dictating allowable added on time.


if we were similarly disadvantaged by tv at end of second half.....

 

Never happen.

Live TV is unpredictable and it's supposed to be family viewing and we know full well most players swear. you wouldn't want your 5 yr old child listening to that at lunchtime or expect them to hear that type of thing.

I agree on being miked up just not so you can hear it on TV. Just for any disputes or legal challenges that might happen.

 

FAke Cup 5th round (2nd VAR round) Man Utd draw the worst available club for the 14 round in a row

 

Who you get?

 

Coleman back in Everton's first team squad

 

That would instantly solve it for most players. A few others would have to be banned before learning. Rooney would just retire.

 

sorry bit it works in rugby and yank ball...

we should stop make excuses for spoiled brats

we should put a half mil fine per swear on the clubs.

#realfines.

swearing would be gone in a week.