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Match Day Thread Swansea v Liverpool

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Solid Air 2, Jan 14, 2018.

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Result...

  1. Home loss

    15.8%
  2. Draw

    15.8%
  3. Away win

    42.1%
  4. We'll ****ing smash'em!

    26.3%
  1. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
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    TBF, no one likes Monday :bandit:
     
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  2. Zanjinho

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    #echoecho
     
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  3. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    cut the man some slack, he is part dolphin
     
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  4. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    None of them have beaten us this season. And we beat Everton in the FA Cup.

    If they'd have sussed us out they'd be beating us comfortably. The truth is they chose to sit back and ride their luck, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't (see our recent late winners Vs Burnley & Everton as proof). They haven't sussed us out anymore than the likes of City/Spurs/Arsenal have this season when they attacked us and beat us, or drew in Arsenal's case. Its just football, we can't win every game.
     
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  5. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    What kind of annoys me about all the moaning is that we are on exactly the same points as we were under Rodgers in our apparent best premier league season ever, yet everyone is talking about our team as if it has massive irreversible flaws and is nowhere near challenging for the title. Man City being so far ahead has skewed everyone's perspective of the teams below, in my view.

    Yeah okay Rodgers' team went on an incredible winning run after this point and we probably won't do the same but I still don't think this side is far off that level, maybe it doesn't have a world class match winner like Suarez but the rest of the team is a lot superior to that team of 2014.
     
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  6. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    You're right, saint, but for me, last night was truly pivotal. A huge opportunity to create pressure missed.
     
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    I am afraid I have to disagree. A team's strength is always in relation to others. I am not sure many people would agree with you that the current team was better than the 2014 one. Of course Suarez was an integral part of that team and we cannot remove the key player from that team as it doesn't then make any sense. Its like saying Barcelona is not as good without Messi or Real Madrid of 2015/6 isn't quite that strong without Ronaldo. It is basically how that key player make others tick and transform the whole into a great team.
     
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  8. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Even Mauricio Pochettino has worked it out. We've been very easy meat for Liverpool over the years but in October, at Wembley, we conceded 65% possession and lots of territory and invited them on. We played Dele and Christian Eriksen deep with Harry Winks and left Harry Kane and Son up front and set Liverpool the task of getting behind a very good back 5, with 3 deep midfielders who are all good at releasing the ball forward accurately and fast.

    Finally, we won one. It's no guarantee that we won't cut our own throats again and attack at Anfield but I doubt it. As you rightly say, if you're doing that, you shouldn't be in a job.
     
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  9. Zanjinho

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    Coutinho was the deterrent for that tactic. Without a creative brain cell between them, our midfield will never break a defensive setup down.

    Mane was good at it last season but he's not the same player this year. Salah needs space as does Firmino.
     
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  10. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Totally agree. I was at Wembley and he was the player that we feared with the ball outside the box. He drew players to him, creating space for others.We just let others have the ball outside the box as the threat was minimal. Coutinho demanded immediate action. It doesn't show on stats but he makes space for others, even without the ball.

    Currently, we have no goal threat from Mousa Dembele or Sissoko or Wanyama......etc. Bringing Dele or Christian Eriksen deep changes that for us. It gives us a Coutinho, whereas, you now have Sissoko and Wanyama types.
     
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  11. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Bollocks, Rodgers team had 5 deserved wins against Spurs before Klopp took over scoring 18 and conceding 2, and Poch was manager at Spurs for 2 of those Rodgers victories, So you reckon its taken your so called top manager 7 games(3 defeats, 3 draws and 1 solitarily win at Wembley)to suss Klopp out.

    Poch v Klopp started in their first game as opposing managers, and LFC have deserved every point won based on Klopp's team and tactics at the time and not because Poch was simply unable to fathom out Klopp's team tactics, Spurs beat us at Wembley and by your reckoning should beat us by the same score in every game between the club's from now on because your manager "has worked it out".<laugh>
     
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    Have to agree with that. The ****e spouted by some since us losing last night is superb, we were 19 unbeaten, 3 games lost all season so we must be doing something right.
     
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  13. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Wow. Actually read my posts. I've not said that we deserved anything but what we got previously, mate. I've also made no prediction about the outcome this season at Anfield other than how we'll set up [probably].

    Mauricio Pochettino has played pretty much every game at Spurs the same until this season. Press high, high defensive line, no deviation, so subtlety, so surprises. **** or bust. Against Liverpool it's been draws and one tonking before this season.

    Then we played Klopp's old team Dortmund at Wembley and went to Real Madrid and put up a back 5 with a deep 3 and 2 up top. It's worked pretty well but it is a MASSIVE change for us. I'm pretty sure [not certain] we'll go the same way at Anfield and....we'll see. Mind that paranoia, now.
     
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    Nobody has a Sissoko but you lot mate not even WBA or Palace.
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    I know...........<wah>
     
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    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Love the way some managers just love to try and get the best out of ****e players.
     
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  17. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Our visitor must think the Swans manager is equal on quality as Pep and Poch because he "worked out" how to give us only our 3rd league defeat of the season.


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    Nah....even you have worked that out, mate.
     
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  19. Zanjinho

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    You trying to claim he isn't?
     
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  20. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    <laugh>

    Your comment dissing our performances and goals during our deserved victories simply because Poch was at the time trying to "work out" Klopp's tactics and not the reality that we beat/drew with Spurs on merit was/is laughable.
    Our unbeaten run against Spurs spanned two managers and 30+ different players, the dynamics aren't always the same in every game.
    Spurs deservedly beat us at Wembley but might or might not at Anfield, same as Pep's team beat a 10 man Liverpool team at the Etihad but couldn't repeat it at Anfield against 11 men, it's football and anything can happen.
    Like coming back from 3-0 down in a CL final at half time and.....well you know the rest.:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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