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Javi Gracia

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  1. Markthehorn

    Markthehorn Well-Known Member

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    Will he have time to bring players in?

    Wonder what sort of football he will want to play..

    Get the feeling it might be possession based with a nod towards defensive solidarity.

    Sure he will start well like most of the managers have!
     
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    It seems he does speak English which will please some.
     
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    Well how many of the players do?!
     
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    The speed a which he has been appointed suggests that even a good result yesterday would have not saved Silva.
     
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    A defensive midfielder by trade.... I wonder what that will mean for us tactically

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    Looks like a well worn face.
     
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    One day we'll get a brickie or a carpenter by trade who can board up our goal.
     
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    This happened suspiciously quickly. Silva's goose was cooked a while back then.

    On wards and hopefully upwards.
     
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    Probably yes - had him lined up just in case and the bloke was out of a job.

    On the WML there were suggestions the club and Silva had falling out a month ago.

    Way football is though - most teams have somebody lined up I suspect.
     
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    Confirmed:

    His most recent job was at Rubin Kazan in Russia and he left after one season, with the language barrier a factor in the decision. Gracia speaks fluent English, however.
     
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    Gracia's teams do not play flowing, attacking football but operate with good positional discipline and are very hard to break down, so Watford fans can prepare for an effective and balanced team rather than a thrilling one.

    A mark of his influence is how badly Malaga have struggled this season - they finished in the bottom half last season and are bottom now, having gone through four different managers since Gracia departed just 18 months ago.

    Spanish football expert Andy West
     
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    Relegation battle material, probably what we need.
     
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    I think so. I've seen elsewhere that Silva's advisors/agent talked to the toffee noses... I think they have done to him what he was going to do to them. However defensive Gracia's teams are, they cannot bas woeful going forward as we have been in recent weeks.
     
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    It's a strange footballing Prem. I just hope we survive, going down means it'll be so hard to get up again. (oh la la)
     
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    I guess only one of us gets the daily mail.. But I hear the same brand of misinformed sensationalist as on their political pages is on their sports pages about our little club...


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    If he is a guy who can grind out results I am not worried about the pretty stuff <laugh> There is another element here - he is actually Basque and not Spanish (This is a requirement for playing for Athletic Bilbao) so maybe he wants to turn us into a workers cooperative !!!! <cheers> They could put all the players on the same wages - and how strange it is that they pay most of our players more than the manager, yet expect absolute loyalty from him but can remove him at any moment.
     
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    Silva will be paid the balance of his contract for doing nothing. He created the problem with his unprofessional behaviour, not a bad result to walk away with a couple of million, he can sulk on a beach somewhere.
     
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    This must be the classic case of one person speaking Russian and the other answering in Greek - namely posting and reply have nothing to do with each other <laugh>
     
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    Firstly I cannot see how much you are paid should effect the level of loyalty. Anyone can removed from their job at any time if not performing to the required standard and guilty of unprofessional behaviour. The fact the remainder of his contract will be paid in full is more than generous.
     
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  20. colognehornet

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    The part about paying all players the same was said very much tongue in cheek SH. It would be desirable but very unlikely to happen. In terms of loyalty, this is something which works 2 ways. I can only really have loyalty to my employer if he/she has the same towards me. If I have the feeling that he/she would get rid of me at any time for economic reasons, or because I don't fit in with their long term planning, or simply my face doesn't fit - If I have the feeling that they are 'playing the field', then I can do the same. I didn't like Silva as a manager - he was egotistic, stubborn, and held personal grudges against some players. He was also unsuccessfull on the pitch - statistically worse than either Mazzari or Silva. I do not like the idea of having one manager to get us promoted, another manager to see us over the first season in the Prem. another manager to take us a bit further etc. etc. It sends out the message that even if a manager is successfull in their goal then they will be pushed aside having achieved it. Both Jokanovic and Flores achieved their goal, wanted to stay, and were pushed aside - so why should a manager wait for the inevitable if a better offer comes in in the meantime ? There was a time where 'loyalty' was a part and parcel of being at Watford - we even had players taking voluntary wage cuts in the past, but those days have gone.
     
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