Nothing's off the table appears to be Labour's stance, but it may prove to be the most realistic one. We are in unusual times where unusual solutions may be the order of the day - we do not know how this year is going to pan out and so it is wise to keep as many options open as possible.
It is fine to come up with confused MPs when talking about Brexit, but Labour are not in power, and are not conducting talks with the EU. Those that have the power are still discussing what they would like to see amongst themselves, so the country at large has no idea what Government or Opposition wants to be the outcome, apart from giving them your vote next time there is an election.
In fairness there's a limit to what can be said as they don't want to give their negotiating positions away. It will be interesting to see what's in some of the White Papers published in the coming months.
With Labour's indecision at the top thankfully they are not in power. Without doubt the march of the far left Momentum within Labour it will be an awfully long time before it needs to decide on any policies.
I think we should all be focussing on the relative "merits" of the ruling minority government and its ability to deliver what it has promised rather than an opposition party unlikely to have the opportunity to rule before June 2022
I agree the Labour Party will be basically irrelevant for at least the next four years, but it would be better if they could agree on a policy amongst themselves. I suspect their internal civil war will consume them in the next few years which will diminish their ability to contribute towards sensible debates in parliament.
Yep - far better to poke fun at them than worry about the ability of a split Tory party to steer essential Brexit legislation through Parliament. That is assuming, of course, that they keep the old testament bigots - sorry DUP - on side which has to be rather doubtful. Even remainers recognise how disastrous it will be if we leave without certain legislation in place - but let's all laugh at Corbyn
The government have successfully completed a great deal of legislation through parliament, it is now the unelected House of Lords to scrutinise this. There has been very little evidence of effective parliamentary opposition to the government's route to Brexit. Parliament has consistently respected the result of the referendum.
Let's see what happens with agriculture, fisheries etc etc. That's where the issues will start. But agree that it's been better than I feared thus far.
The reality will be as I said before all the people with a stake will want to keep the main deals in place, sad about the government and human rights though, and we shall end up with a soft brexit.. But poorer for perhaps a decade... Sent from my G3121 using Tapatalk
Labour position is clear they are split as their voters were.. Similar to the tories really except the tories are clinging to power and have to make it work... Sent from my G3121 using Tapatalk
How often have I seen this type of comment? What people seem to forget is that it is the single market of the the EU, not of anyone else, therefore the EU has the perfect right to say what the rules and regulations are. Join it and accept the rules, or stay out and lose the benefits that it brings. To say that you wish to stay in, but the rules must change to suit you is pure wishful thinking, something that was never explained before the referendum. No we can stay in and have the same relationship was quite ridiculous, but there are people that I know who believed it.
There is a difference saying I want to stay in the single market with I have no problem staying in under certain conditions. I am under no illusions that it would be possible unlike most Labour spokespersons. Not many Brexiteers have ever thought it was possible, most senior remainers went out of their way to dismiss the idea if the UK's red lined were maintained. The EU is beginning to understand the potential damage to it's economy without a trade deal, so lets see.
There's certainly some truth in that - but it will only go so far in giving us what we want. We are definitely in damage limitation mode - but I think most knew that was going to be the case.
We need some clear thinking now, it is time for Rees-Mogg to take over negotiations. UK must end free movement the second we quit hated EU say Brexiteer MPs MORE than 100 MPs will demand that Theresa May ends free movement and takes Britain out...
No one knows what will happen, it's all up in the air. It's like transfer deadline day but worse. Either side is run by clueless nutters.
Our permaposting divisive deluded troll will lap up nonsensical articles like that one. And he dares call the Labour view disorganised
: Irony that Rees-Fogg is saying: “We must have control of free movement of people as soon as we leave,” said Mr Rees-Mogg. “This idea that we can let them carry on coming for another two years is absolutely absurd.” Well what about all the movement the other way? I think his proposal as the sotto voce leader of 100 'eurosceptic Tory backbenchers' would be a disaster for the economy... and that is why the Govt will not go there... pretty certain this is now a non-negotiable in any case. No.... Mr Fogg is stirring up anit-May rhetoric for a leadership move in the future and if that happens Labour would get in de facto whatever they banana skins they tread on.
The govt always had more control on movement than they were prepared to let on. Anyone who thinks the numbers are the fault of Brussels needs to look a lot closer to home.
